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UPDATE: Ozzie Guillen suspended five games

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Oh, fuck, it isn't those people with Guillen's balls in their hands. It's their "leaders."
     
  2. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    It's the outrage among the Cuban community in Miami that is putting pressure on the "movers and shakers" to discipline Ozzie. As noted earlier, he has previously made similar comments in Chicago with no uproar whatsoever. You say that in Miami and, yeah, a good percentage of the population is going to get upset and threaten boycotts, etc.

    EDIT: I see you changed "movers and shakers" to "their leaders," which does change a bit the impression I had of who you were speaking about.

    Even still, if you don't think a significant portion of the Marlins' fan base was upset to see their manager say they love Castro, you're kidding yourself.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    If you can't speak highly of a murderous dictator in the backyard of many of his exiles, and their offspring, or enable a child rapist without consequence, we've all lost a little freedom.
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    And I say the rank and file is not threatening those boycotts. It's a bunch of people in nice offices who are telling the rank and file they should be insulted.

    People make careers of this, you know. See Sharpton, Al.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The only grass roots boycott ever was the recent Rush Limbaugh advertiser boycott. That was legit!

    Everything else is AstroTurf.
     
  6. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Something went wierd in baseball and I can't blame Bud? That's no fun.
     
  7. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    You're not wrong on your second point, but you're way off on your first point.

    When people are jumping into makeshift rafts with the idea that they will either land in Florida or die and both options are better than staying in Cuba, you bet your ass the rank-and-file have a seething hatred of Castro and don't want to see the manager of their favorite ballclub admiring him.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    You're forgetting the fact that most right-thinking people realize that Ozzie Guillen has a tendency to just throw stupid shit out there, and he's not a member of Fidel Castro's army, and he qualified his "endorsement" of Castro.
     
  9. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I'd argue when it comes to Castro, there's a very visceral reaction among Cubans that would render all those points moot.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and Paterno didn't endorse Sandusky's raping of children right under his nose. He wasn't "in Sandusky's army" either.

    I don't get why people get so worked up about this kind of thing.
     
  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    OK. It's an argument that could be made in myriad instances where somebody's career was changed because the worst intentions were culled out of some statement they made. And I'm not saying Ozzie's career is going to be changed by this, but you know the history I'm talking about.

    YF, no need to bring Penn State into this. That's a Piotr kind of move.
     
  12. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    How many of those outraged Cubans go to their local Walmart to buy a bunch of cheap shit made in China?
     
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