UPDATE: Uh-oh! CMU, EMU and now WMU in big trouble thanks to Rich Rod!

mustangj17 · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
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Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
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And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
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No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.

outofplace · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
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Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?

mustangj17 · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
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Apples and Oranges.

slappy4428 · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

I've rooted for them my whole life too -- and yet, I can take the blinders off...

outofplace · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

mustangj17 said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
Click to expand...

Apples and Oranges.
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How? Rodriguez demonstrated that he was willing to violate his contract for a competitive advantage. It absolutely applies here.

armageddon · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
Click to expand...

Apples and Oranges.
Click to expand...

How? Rodriguez demonstrated that he was willing to violate his contract for a competitive advantage. It absolutely applies here.
Click to expand...

Agreed. It's about credibility and that is always relevant.

Though the Sweater Vest has a history of being blissfully ignorant about select NCAA violators within his programs.

outofplace · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

armageddon said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
Click to expand...

Apples and Oranges.
Click to expand...

How? Rodriguez demonstrated that he was willing to violate his contract for a competitive advantage. It absolutely applies here.
Click to expand...

Agreed. It's about credibility and that is always relevant.

Though the Sweater Vest has a history of being blissfully ignorant about select NCAA violators within his programs.
Click to expand...

True. I'm not saying any of these guys is 100 percent clean. I'm saying that Rodriguez has done more that we know of to earn suspicion.

armageddon · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

outofplace said:

armageddon said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
Click to expand...

Apples and Oranges.
Click to expand...

How? Rodriguez demonstrated that he was willing to violate his contract for a competitive advantage. It absolutely applies here.
Click to expand...

Agreed. It's about credibility and that is always relevant.

Though the Sweater Vest has a history of being blissfully ignorant about select NCAA violators within his programs.
Click to expand...

True. I'm not saying any of these guys is 100 percent clean. I'm saying that Rodriguez has done more that we know of to earn suspicion.
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Agreed 100%. I just can't resist taking a playful shot at Tress. Hell of a coach but nothing has ever really stuck to him and he is far too detail-oriented to have been unaware of the shit at Youngstown and at OSU.

mustangj17 · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

outofplace said:

armageddon said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

outofplace said:

mustangj17 said:

slappy4428 said:

mustangj17 said:

StaggerLee said:

I think it's kind of ironic that every time one of these discussions take place on here which involves people defending a program/franchise/athlete, they get branded a fanboi looser and told to "act like a professional journalist." Yet, those same people who are doing the branding are many times jumping to conclusions, judging without knowing all the facts and generally being biased in the other direction.

This is not meant to point fingers to anyone in this particular thread. Just a trend I notice in general every time we try to have a discussion that involves sports.
Click to expand...

Stagger,

They can call me a fanboi. I don't really care at all.

What does irk me is the fact that everyone assumes Rodriguez is guilty of breaking NCAA rules and is guilty of defaulting on a loan.
What if his adviser is right and he was part of a ponzi scheme?

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Oh wait, this is sports.
Click to expand...

And you'd have this patience if it was D'Antonio or Tressel? Bullshit.
Click to expand...

No. I wouldn't. I would probably just read the original article, take it at it's word, get a good laugh and move on. I wouldn't be reading into it as much as I am when it involves the team I have rooted for my entire life.

Tressel and Dantonio would deserve the same innocence until proven guilty. But we know that doesn't happen in sports.
Click to expand...

Did Tressel or Dantonio ever get caught recruiting for one school before they had resigned from their job as head coach at another like what Rodriguez did?
Click to expand...

Apples and Oranges.
Click to expand...

How? Rodriguez demonstrated that he was willing to violate his contract for a competitive advantage. It absolutely applies here.
Click to expand...

Agreed. It's about credibility and that is always relevant.

Though the Sweater Vest has a history of being blissfully ignorant about select NCAA violators within his programs.
Click to expand...

True. I'm not saying any of these guys is 100 percent clean. I'm saying that Rodriguez has done more that we know of to earn suspicion.
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No doubt. He is shady. Definitely no Lloyd Carr. But that doesn't mean that he is guilty of the recent allegations.

WolvEagle · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

I can't believe it - nothing new blew up in RichRod's face today.

slappy4428 · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

WolvEagle said:

I can't believe it - nothing new blew up in RichRod's face today.
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Day ain't over yet.

WolvEagle · Sep 3, 2009

Re: Uh-oh! Cental Michigan, or some other smaller football program, in trouble

If he loses Saturday, then things will really, really blow up (and Slappy will be very happy that his Broncos won one of their biggest games ever).

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