UVA and the alleged frat rape - Rolling Stone backpedals

You have any examples of that happening?

 

My guess is this is the case Tony's (quasi) thinking of: College rape: Campus sexual assault is a serious problem. But the efforts to protect women are infringing on the civil rights of men.

 

Wasn't thinking of any case in particular. More presenting a hypothetical. But if Big Circus thinks that's never happened I'd guess he's still tethered to his mama's apron strings.

 

I've been following a case in my neck of the woods over at Duke where a senior and a freshman hooked up after a drunken night at Shooters. Whether it was regret or sexual assault is apparently open to your interpretation of what each is. In a process that defies all logic - or any kind of due process - Duke expelled the male right before he was set to graduate.

Here's an excellent background primer on the case:
A Duke senior sues the university after being expelled over allegations of sexual misconduct | News Feature | Indy Week

Perhaps the most disturbing excerpt in a disturbing story:

He sued and has since won an injunction that prevents Duke from expelling him, but also hasn't allowed him to graduate. In the meantime, the state has sent a cease-and-desist letter to the Duke sexual assault investigator for working as a private investigator without a license.

I can't think of a situation that highlights the problems with universities attempting to adjudicate sexual assault cases more poignantly than this. It's one of the many examples that have led me to the position that universities need to get out of the business of trying to determine what happened and leave that up to the authorities

 

There's a Michigan one, I think, that led a Slate piece that was in that league, as well.

 

Swarthmore, also linked on this thread, was awful. The guy won his lawsuit, but it took him years.

 

But only in the First World.

 

That's way beyond my level.

 

Well, your post is a sentence, plus a misspelled sentence fragment. I don't know if that counts in term of uselessness. I'll have to check the rulebook.

 

You guys may not have been responding to my question, but unless I'm missing something, all the principals in the stories posted on this page actually had sex. So not good examples of what Tony posited and I questioned.

 

Those statistics are such bullshit.

I remember years ago one of the questionnaires they gave female college students asked, "Did you have a sexual encounter in college that you regret having?"

Uh, duh. It's college. I'm guessing lots of us, male and female, had mornings when we woke up and immediately regretted any and everything we did the night before.

That doesn't mean it's not a big issue on campus and that we shouldn't do anything we can to stop it, but people also need to take responsibility for their actions.

 

True, but some/much of the controversy du jour centers on the fact that, in many cases, actual penetrative sex is not required for a sexual assault to have occurred. I can't recall the link, but in at least one instance "attempted forced kissing" has been categorized as sexual assault.