UVA and the alleged frat rape - Rolling Stone backpedals

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What about the possibility that a bunch of men are possibly being falsely accused of a heinous, pre-meditated gang rape? Does the end justify the means? Rape is bad, after all.

 

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Well none of those guys are being identified so that makes it OK.

 

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I think you're being sarcastic, but their fraternity and school year is identified.

 

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I am being sarcastic.
I've been in lock-step agreement with you since this thread popped up.



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What's UVA going to look like if it comes to light that this story - much, if not all of it - is Bullshit?
The based their renewed efforts and punished the Greek system based on a magazine article, that at best, embelished a lot of facts.

 

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Yeah, I knew that, and I appreciate it.

 

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You can't be serious.

So, the message, "drug use is bad" is what's really important, so it's OK for me as a journalist to write a story about how jr/shotglass is a raving meth head, even though he isn't?

 

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I hope you never sit on a jury. Ever.

 

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Gah. Why was Wendy Murphy quoted in this piece?

In her article, Erdely quotes from eight figures other than Jackie, Jackie’s friends, and UVA administrators: an accuser in a previous case; the mother of an accuser in a previous case; a victims’ rights advocate; another victims’ rights advocate, from an organization called “SurvJustice”; the “founder of the national male sex-assault peer education group One in Four”; the head of the Obama administration’s OCR; the former public policy director of “the advocacy group Clery Center for Security on Campus”; and Wendy Murphy. It appears, therefore, as if Erdely spoke only to people who for personal or ideological reasons were inclined to vouch for Jackie’s credibility.


http://www.mindingthecampus.com/2014/12/more-questions-about-rolling-stone-and-uva/

The first seven people in this list—however one-sided their compilation might be—at least are presented fairly. But then there’s the person Erdely describes “attorney Wendy Murphy, who has filed Title IX complaints and lawsuits against schools including UVA.”

While Erdely elects not to inform her readers, Murphy has a past as a commenter on high-profile campus rape cases. In the lacrosse case, she repeatedly misstated (and on some occasions simply made up) “facts” designed to make the lacrosse players look guilty. To take a few examples, Murphy (on national TV) wildly claimed, “I bet one or more of the players was, you know, molested or something as a child.” She later asserted, “I never, ever met a false rape claim, by the way.” Murphy falsely stated, “All the photographs showing how really fine [lacrosse accuser Crystal Mangum] was when she left scene were doctored, where the date stamp was actually fraudulent.” The attorney falsely told a national TV audience that “all” of the lacrosse players took the Fifth Amendment. (None of them had, and three had voluntarily given statements to police without their attorneys present.) Murphy fantasized about non-existent “broomstick DNA” and the “torn genitalia” of the accuser.

What does it say about Erdely’s credibility—upon which, in the end, the story relies—that she is willing to uncritically quote from a charlatan like Murphy, all while not informing readers of her source’s grievous misstatements of facts on a previous high-profile allegation of campus sexual assault?

 

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Jezebel is really pissed at Minding The Campus right now.

 

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Trust me, the reverse is true, too.

 

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YOUR point is valid. And the questionable accuracy is indeed regrettable. I just wish that we'd see that it's regrettable because of the setback to the issue, and not for some "gotcha" moment between journalists.

 

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I find it funny that the Jezebel Twitter account follows only four people.