We have to go back! (Lost 2009 season)

My first reaction is profound disappointment, but I need to watch it again. Too few answers. We actually saw Jacob onscreen for several minutes, yet we somehow know less than we did before?

 

Lots of interesting stuff. Don't see how they can answer everything in just one more season.

 

Just a few thoughts, in no particular order:
— There was most definitely a biblical element to Jacob and Cain. Ben's whole speech to Jacob was the result of a crisis of faith, and his feeling that he had done so much, yet saw so little in return.
— What was really interesting to me was the 10-second tease for next season, with the line "Destiny Found." Next season has to be about just that, and the characters finally realizing what they did wrong so long ago and correcting their mistakes. Remember that very early on, the purgatory idea gained traction because when characters realized their past sins, they quickly died off. The characters that are left have always fought that (as noted by Rose, who said they went back 30 years and are still finding reasons to shoot each other).
— I am interested to see if Miles and/or Lapidis have a real stake in what is going on anymore. Miles, in last week's episode, realized why his dad told his mother to leave and, this week, saved his father - that means growth and he'll be soon a goner. I would like to find out why Lapidis was not on that plane, and Grunberg was. But, in 16 episodes, I am not sure if we find that out. At least not in a way we would want, given that Losties tend to build up backstories in their heads, backstories that grow the longer they go without. Same with Jacob/Cain, Richard, Widmore and Eloise - each would need to have ferocious, jaw-dropping stories that I am not sure we have the time to get into.
— I would love for this show to go back to what it was in the beginning, and be truly about the characters. I liked the science fiction stuff, don't get me wrong. But, as I've said on this forum before, this show will always be about people trying to survive. We got back to that in the second half of this season. Deep down, my satisfying ending would be just knowing that Jin and Sun are together and happy, Kate picks a man, and Hurley finds a tub of chocolate. Not a gallon container, but a bathtub. This would seem to be fulfilling for ol' Hurley.

 

I haven't really watched any episodes but tonight's and a few early on. And I will get mee to the video store soon.

 

Well, just finished watching the finale. I loved it, obviously.

Unless I'm misreading things, I agree with the folks here who say that Jacob/'Cain' represent fate vs. free will.

I think the "they're coming" refers to the 1977 castaways. I think they'll be back on the island, in present time, by the end of the season but I see them starting off in 2004 with a chance to really change things.

So we finally saw the statue and I still say "Big Whoop". At least it's nice to know that it does have a purpose but I never understood the obsession with it.

What I want to know right now, more than anything, is what's up with Hurley and the guitar case? Clearly this show is setting up the return of Claire and Charlie in some way, even hinting at it by showing the DS ring and whatnot. Might Hurley be responcible for bringing them back.

God I have so many questions and not enough time to process this. I am glad, though, that this season's finale feels a bit like a resolution of a storyline and isn't as big a "WTF!!!!" Cliffhanger like the last two have been. It'll make the wait more tolerable.

 

Pretty cool - hell of cool stunt with Sayid's "late" girlfriend. I slowed it down and it looked damn real.
Kind of odd to see Titus Welliver (anti-Jacob) and Nestor Carbonell (Richard) in the same episode, I've always gotten those guys confused.
Biggest disappointment was the ending. Just a ten second tease of the group standing looking around with Hurley saying "Jack, I don't know if that exactly worked." or a black screen and hearing Jack screaming "Noooooooooooo" or Sawyer saying "You got anymore great ideas Doc?"

 

I think they give her one of those looks just about every show. They have done a superb job over the last few seasons highlighting her rack. Take that for whatever it's worth.

Couldn't agree more. The first thing I thought at the start of the episode was that Jacob was good and the other guy was evil. One wears white, the other black. Jacob also said throughout the episode how people always have choices, while they other guy just seems hell bent on getting Jacob.

You'll have to pardon me if I'm way off base, so maybe some of the more religiously astute members can help me, but this played very much God vs. devil in my mind. The idea that God has a plan for everyone while the devil simply meddles with people, trying to get them to stray from the path God sets for them.

 

Random thoughts....I don't think there's any question it's good vs. evil. The manipulation of Ben was first-rate. But at this point, I'm not willing to accept that Jacob is the good one... where will they end up after the explosion?.. I think this is a loop that keeps playing out over and over... when they get it right, they're not going back to their lives, they'll live out happily on the island because these people are meant to be together...the statue is significant because Locke/Cain/Satan/God didn't know where Jacob/Satan/God was living... would Richard speak Latin if he was on the black rock, Ricardis -- Spanish?...is he older?

 

Disagree, if only because it had to work or else they're all dead.

 

Isn't that sort of the point? A few answers. They just lead to more questions.

Like...
So, where does our revivified Christian fit in? Was he embodied by Cain before Cain embodied Locke? Or by Jacob?

Are Ben, Whitmore and Eloise just pawns in the fight between Jacob and Cain? Well, Ben certainly now seems to be. But what of the other two?

And the one I've always wondered: Who funds all this shit?

 

Opening scene dialogue between Jacob and Other Guy....

Other Guy: Morning.
Jacob: Morning.
OG: Mind if I join you?
Jacob: Please.
Jacob: Want some fish?
OG: Thank you. I just ate.
Jacob: I take it you're here because of the ship.
OG: I am.

OG: How did they find The Island?
Jacob: You'll have to ask them when they get here.
OG: I don't have to ask. You brought them here.

OG: You're trying to prove me wrong, aren't you?
Jacob: You are wrong.
OG: Am I?

OG: They come. They fight. They destory. They corrupt. It always ends the same.
Jacob: But it only ends once. Anything that happens before that.. is just progress.

OG: Do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?
Jacob: Yes.
OG: One of these days, sooner or later, I'm going to find a loophole my friend.
Jacob: When you do I'll be right here.
OG: Always nice talking to you Jacob.
Jacob: Nice taling to you too.

 

How about the library? My local has the first four seasons on DVD. If I didn't already own them all, I would check them out, one season at a time.