We have to go back! (Lost 2009 season)

I think they meant to show that Jacob never visited Juliet. She ends up being the person who ignites the bomb and either creates The Incident (Miles' theory) or she changes time (Jack's theory). I haven't read Doc yet, but posters on here indicated he thinks Juliet is the variable. Makes sense.

Jacob's visit to Sayid did come after the O-6 left The Island. Everyone else got the visit before they came on Oceanic 815 - Jack after that well-known surgery, Kate as a 10-ish year-old, 8-10-year-old Sawyer after his parents murder-suicide, and Sun and Jin after their wedding.

Perhaps this is why Sayid was shot. Or was closer to death before or more than anyone else. Hurley's visit also came after he was off The Island, though. Jacob wanted him to go back and found him after he was released from prison. What's the significance of that?

Or does it matter when Jacob visited these people? Just as long as he did? Perhaps Hurley and Sayid were the two most against going back???

 

My thinking is that Jacob is trying to course correct each person at a pivotal time, to change what happens from this point on the ... whatever the overall timeline we're in now is called. And it all happened previous to "now," so I guess it wouldn't matter if it's before or after 815, right?

 

I'm leaning more toward Jacob being on the wrong side of this ... especially if his vessel turns out to be the pilot, played Jeff Fahey -- who plays a helluva villain.

 

The pilot as in Lapidis? Or the guy who was killed in the pilot episode that replaced Lapidis? No one knows why that happened.

 

Have to agree with Piotr. Doesn't make much sense that the nuclear blast was The Incident, and I think The Incident was clearly taking place before Juliet set off the bomb. Many other good points there, too.

Local storms caused me to miss the first 40 minutes. Guess the power to the DVR went out for a while. Of all the nights ... Guess I need to get online and rewatch. They don't still replay it during the weekend, do they?

And I'm wondering if I only have this question because I missed most of Jacob's visits (or I'm just an idiot), but why would it be significant that Juliet was not visited by Jacob? Like ID sez, Richard brought her to the island. She was not on either of the planes. What am I missing? Maybe I'll go read Doc.

 

I am tracking this on a pda, and that sucks, but there is some fantastic work being done on these pages. Thanks everyone for their thoughts. It's better than any blog.

A few cannon shots...

The idea for this series probably was born about the time Angles and Demons was penned, right? How about a men of science helping the men, or Gods, against absolute evil.

I think when Jacob visited these men is very important. Why? Who knows? But many were visited around 1977.

Not sure if I read it here or not, but Esau actually was the one that tricked locke into killing himself by posing as Locke. Damn.

I love the biblical theme. And Sayid saying that were are going to use the camaflouge (spell) of being right out in the open could well work with the producers.

Do you think a nucleur blast would knock that statue down to its ankles?
The actor who plays 9harley has nothing booked for the next year if I remember correctly.

Anyone look up that book?

So how did Locke know all this crazy stuff in seasons 1 and 2? Like when it was going to rain and that the dynamite would not blow him to hell?

OK, I'm going to stop, but if this show ends as strong as the Sopranoes, I think it could be considered the best ever.

 

Some more random thoughts:

1. Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve skeletons. It makes sense and this season showed that the writers weren't afraid to make the obvious answer the correct answer (see Miles-Pierre Chang, etc.). Lost likes to save the big twists for plot points, not details (to an extent).

2. Jeff Fahey, who plays Lapidis, is a (very, very) distant relative of mine. Definitely never met him, don't think anyone in the fam that I know has met him.

3. Dirty, watch the whole thing and you will understand the potential implication from Jacob not visiting Juliet. Especially because she was more than just the one who set off the bomb ... she really was the driving force. I mean, Jack ran with it and all, but Juliet's actions and decisions are largely what got them all to that spot at that time. For a second I thought she might have been running a very long con and still working for someone else.

4. 93, I do think the statue was knocked down by the blast ... it makes sense. And Doc looked up the book, so read his latest when you get a chance.

 

Now I'm REALLY pissed that I missed the beginning. Not to mention I missed how they got off the sub. I'll have to watch when I get home tonight. My DVR started when they were in the jungle talking to Rose and Bernard, so I think I missed a lot.

 

i have so much going through my head i really can't put it all down into words.

instead, i'll just say this is the greatest television show i have ever seen. and it's not close.

 

I'm not sure he didn't visit Juliet. Maybe we just didn't see it. She went running out of the house ... doesn't mean Jacob didn't show up.

 

Just read Doc's column and what he said about the Jacob visits made me really excited about Season Six.

What if the bomb being set off sends all of the castaways that were there (Hurley, Jin, Sawyer, Jack, Kate) back to the point in their lives that Jacob visited them at...except this time with the knowledge of what has already happened?

They'd get a second chance to make key decisions (To get on the plane or not?) and could play a gigantic role in shaping the events that happened (I.E. Hurley can tell Charlie and Claire not to go to the Island).

If that's the case, I'll go crazy next year.

And as for my opinion that last night wasn't a cliffhanger, what I meant was that I feel like it tied up all the loose ends ...of season five.

Yes, we don't know everything. Hell, we don't know a lot. But I feel the final shot was a really good way to go out because it is a logical break in the story telling. If you look at Lost as a series of books, for instance, this would be a good place to end one book and start a new one.

I thought they'd give us a little tease of Season Six but I'm happy overall with how things went last night.

 

Does anyone think that when you rewatch the seasons you might see Jacob or Esau?