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Welcome to the Pac-10, Lane Kiffin

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TheSportsPredictor, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The TV news director showed some guts. And he was 100 percent right.

    I understand if there were a bunch of print people with the attitude, "I am getting what I want out of this, so I am not going to stand beside him." Although I also think it's shortsighted, because it just emboldens an SID like that to try to dictate terms to THEIR coverage down the line.

    But if you watch the first part of that pre-presser mess, the news director wasn't happy with the groundnrules -- no live. But as long as everyone there to report it was being treated equally, he was rightfully ready to roll.

    Then the SID comes back with a change. Kiffin had new chickenshit rules. And they were rules that specifically put his TV coverage at a disadvantage to the other mediums in the room, because Kiffin was too much of a coward to face a TV camera while on the record.

    Good for that news director for not giving in to the peer pressure in that room and the fact that no one was really standing up with him. It wasn't HIS job to make it easy for Kiffin to scoot out of town without having to face TV cameras or answer questions. And it wasn't his job to capitulate so a bunch of print guys could get a canned story wrapped with a bow, while he's being told he can't record it.

    The end result was that because of that guy, the public really did get an honest reporting of the situation. The way it played--and this is what I saw before I knew the backstory about how this went down--was "Lane Kiffin fucked Tennessee and then didn't have the guts to face the media before trying a getaway. He came out gave a 30 second statement, didn't answer questions like a man, and then needed a police escort to get out of the building."

    Because of that one guy, an honest reporting of the situation did come out of it, rather than a bullshit scripted one that gave Kiffin the pass he was looking for.

    Ya'll aren't a PR agency. It was Kiffin's decision to either face the media or not face it, speak or not speak, answer questions or not answer questions. Kiffin made his choice.

    That guy showed backbone and didn't allow Kiffin to get out of his responsibility for making that decision.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I should have made it clearer: Coach B is not Fisher.

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  3. Den1983

    Den1983 Active Member

    But Kiffin was no longer an employee of the university. Because of that, it's my belief, that circumstances changed. If the media wanted anything, they had to play his game. Ultimately, that's what happened.

    I'm kind of surprised he didn't just walk.
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    If he didn't want to answer questions, then he shouldn't have agreed to appear. He should have just given his little statement to the SID and left.

    Instead, the media wanted to just act like stenographers. Not to go all political here, but in the last decade, we've seen what happens when the media decides to just write down what people say without calling out their bullshit.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It has nothing to do with whether he is an employee of the University.

    Kiffin was a story. Those reporters were there to try to get him on the record about quitting. Kiffin was either going to face the media or not face the media. Answer questions (which he had already decided not to) or not answer questions.

    The game you say that news director had to play was: 1) Kiffin agrees to go on the record. 2) But the TV cameras are not allowed to record all of it--only a smalled scripted part Lane Kiffin wants to orchestrate for the TV news.

    Why would anyone expect a guy who makes his living reporting news with a TV camera to go along with that?

    Kiffin didn't have to face those reporters. But either face them or don't face them. I think it's great that rather than letting Kiffin dictate terms like those which put him at a disadvantage, that news director forced him to either face the media or NOT face the media. Not try to manipulate the media for the exact coverage Lane Kiffin wanted. It worked out perfectly as far as I am concerned as a distant observer.

    Of course, that news director isn't getting paid for advancing a principle. He was being told he couldn't record, while everyone else was going to get something more from Kiffin for their mediums than he could have for his. And he decided NOT to play that game. Why should he have?
     
  6. Shoeless Joe

    Shoeless Joe Active Member

    Yes, I am aware the telephone has been invented. I can envision an conversation going something like this:
    "Hey, I'm at the presser and Kiffin won't do exactly what I want him to, so I'm just gonna walk to prove a point."
    "Uhhh .... whatever, but if you plan on coming back without a story just don't bother coming back."
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I envision this ideal phone conversation:

    "Hey, Tennessee is telling us the only thing we can tape is Kiffin reading a piece of paper. They won't allow us to tape him answering any questions."

    "Fuck that. Let me talk to the A.D. He doesn't want to talk to me? Then fuck him. Start putting together an editorial explaining why we don't have any tape. And tell the AD that he'll really enjoy our newscast tonight if he doesn't let us videotape Kiffin."

    Of course, that would require some guts from management.
     
  8. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    I can tell you with some pride that this is the conversation I would have with my News Director:

    Me: "Lane Kiffin won't speak if I'm rolling tape."
    ND: "You'd better be rolling tape."

    And if your boss would have a different reaction, you work for a shitweasel.
     
  9. Shoeless Joe

    Shoeless Joe Active Member

    I'm not defending the school/Kiffin at all and while your ideals are great in college and at an SPJ meeting, do you really think the AD/SID/Kiffin gives a shit if your newscast leads with how they wouldn't talk to you?
    More importantly, do think the general fan -- the person who buys the papers, tunes in for ratings -- gives a shit? The answer is no. They'll rip you for not having the story and get it somewhere else.
    If your lead is Kiffin walking away without saying anything, so what ... everybody already thinks he is Satan, the paying customer doesn't care about your journalistic principles being upheld. All they know is you missed the story.
    Good luck paying your bills with principles.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Get what somewhere else? And this really wasn't about principles, probably. It was about that TV guy saying no to useless garbage.

    The story for those fans was that Kiffin quit and took the USC job.

    At that point, the question was whether 1) Kiffin was going say something on the record, and 2) whether he was going to answer questions.

    He wasn't going to answer questions. And he told the TV guys they weren't welcome to record his ON THE RECORD comments and that all he would give them on camera was something carefully scripted by Lane Kiffin.

    What exactly did that TV guy miss out on? Allowing Kiffin to dictate a sound bite agreeable to Lane Kiffen for broadcast news?

    What he got was better than that. Rather than that dreck, people saw a guy who gave a surly 30 seconds, wouldn't answer questions and had to bolt with a police escort. That told the story quite honestly. And it was more compelling for a fan tuning in than Lane Kiffin's attempt at orchestrated bullshit.
     
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Who was the fake blond who yelled "This is bullshit" toward the end of the clip?
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It was a negotiation for access. Kiffin doesn't want to look like he's avoiding the media entirely, the TV station doesn't want to have his comments unrecorded.

    The TV guy doesn't think he's getting a good deal, he's free to argue for a better one, and threatening to walk away is part of that argument. Nothing wrong with that.

    I don't see why there has to be a big ethical or moral component to it.
     
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