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What a shock: Hollywood pushing back at "The Sniper"

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by hondo, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of war movies as in dramas, not documentaries. And sure, I have watched a lot of them, movies and documentaries, WW2 mostly, some Nam. I like history and war. Was just trying to draw a parallel with how this Iraq movie has been treated versus how some Nam movies have been portrayed.

    I shall return you all to your debate. This is interrupting my drinking and snow obsession.
     
  2. EddieM

    EddieM Member

    To answer your other question, it's a fair rebuttal. But I think the movie could have done more in that regard; if there are shades of gray in the Iraqi depiction, they are faint and fleeting. (Disclaimer I should post 600 times: I didn't think this was a bad movie; it's just not a movie beyond criticism).

    And while I wouldn't go as far as this author, I think this article presents a good summation of the critiques of the film: Every movie rewrites history. What American Sniper did is much, much worse. - Vox
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

  5. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Blah blah blah.

    Handles come. Handles go. Somethings never change.
     
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Definite lyric right there.
     
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  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    You say hello and I say goodbye
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Some things, although when I use it in a song, "somethings" will work as artistic license and makes for more ambiguous phrasing.
     
  9. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    Analysis from always interesting Tyler Cowen: "American Sniper is one of the best anti-war movies I have seen, ever. . . . By making the attractions of war palpable, this film disturbs and confuses people and also occasions some of the worst critical reviews I have read. It also, by understanding and then dissecting the attractions of blood lust, becomes a quite convincing anti-war movie, if you doubt this spend a few months studying The Iliad. (By the way, Clint Eastwood, the director and producer, describes the movie as anti-war.)"

    Two misunderstood movies, two Rorschach tests (not too many spoilers here)
     
  10. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about? As a member of the left, I am perfectly capable of separating the two. I don't give a shit what led to the war ... the soldiers sent to fight it don't have a choice in the matter. And no matter the race/religion of the people he is killing, a soldier like Kyle is a hero in my mind for keeping his fellow soldiers alive. Personally, when I watch a war movie, the events that led to that war don't even enter my mind. Why would it? The issues are completely separate.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I want to go on the record again that I don't think that soldiers should be completely separated, from a moral culpability standpoint, from the conflict they are fighting in.
     
  12. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Why? They don't choose where they are sent.
     
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