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What Lee Jenkins' LeBron scoop says about our industry

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by GBNF, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's unclear to me why something being ancient is evidence that it's good journalism.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You're really telling us that it's different because it's sports -- because the stakes are lower?

    That means different rules apply?

    You're the guy who says FOX and MSNBC, aren't journalism. That sports radio isn't journalism. You might as well just say that sports reporting is not journalism.
     
  3. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    How would this affect your posting future if this concession was made? Think hard before you answer, please.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Um, it wouldn't?
     
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    What would you have to be outraged about here if journalism ethics were taken off the table?
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Devil93's stupidity?
     
  7. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Fuck. Check mate.
     
  8. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    In his defense, I think he might be drunk tonight, as his Jeter rant lacked the usual earnestness and veered right toward crazy.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL. That describes it perfectly.
     
  10. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Journalism to me has always been about explaining what happened to the masses. As the excellent Sports On Earth essay says, I can think of no better way than this. In this case, the news was explicitly about a single person's decision. Letting him explain himself was a good decision.

    YankeeFan, where were your complaints on the Jason Collins essay?
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Yes, different rules apply. In probably 80-90 percent of cases, I'd guess.

    I don't know how you get from there to saying sports writing has NO journalistic value or credibility at all. It does - it's just a different kind.

    Fox News and MSNBC are propaganda, to be considered entertainment. I'd say the same of ESPN with most of its teevee programming. A vast majority of the time, they hold no more journalistic value than, say, an episode of Real Housewives.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's interesting.

    I know I was critical of the media's role in the PR roll out of the Michael Sam story.

    I went back and looked at the Jason Collins thread. I must have missed the "with Franz Lidz" notation. I don't remember it coming up.

    I think I was mostly concerned with Drip's idiocy on that thread.

    And, to be clear, it's not the first person nature of the essay that bothers me. It's Jenkins participation. I Lidz helped Collins, then I have a problem with that too.
     
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