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When will Joe get Yank-ed out of the South Bronx?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by hockeybeat, May 18, 2007.

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Should the Yanks struggle in the next two series (at Mets and vs. Red Sox), do Joe Torre and Brian C

  1. Yes.

    4 vote(s)
    13.3%
  2. No.

    20 vote(s)
    66.7%
  3. Maybe.

    6 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Given that he does have the out clause, who would pay what the Yankees likely would want -- I'd imagine two very good everyday players and a top-end reliever to even start the conversation -- for a two-month rental?
     
  2. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    BECAUSE A-ROD HAS A FULL NO-TRADE CLAUSE AND WILL NOT AGREE TO A DEAL ANYWHERE.

    HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE REPEATED?
     
  3. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Three very good players? Not happening. But would they settle for two?

    Say they're 15 or 18 behind Boston (and the WC leader) at the deadline. And say they're pretty certain he's opting out, anyway. Wouldn't they settle for two?

    Now, say you're a team that either hasn't won before or keeps getting to the playoffs and falling short. Would you give up two players for a couple of months of A-Rod? Especially if you think he'd love nothing more than to stick it to the Yankees by having a monster postseason?

    What if the Yankees chip in some $$$ to make it easier on you. Would you do it if you were the A's? Or the Angels? Or the Twins? What about the Indians? Or the White Sox? And that's just the AL. How about the Braves? Or the Padres?
     
  4. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Please. Lots of guys with FNTC's have been traded. After insisting they didn't want to go anywhere. If A-Rod and Boras determine there's $20 to be made out of waving the FNTC, it'll get waved.

    And if you're so sure he's not waving it, is he also going to decline to exercise the opt-out? Because everyone I've read seems to think that it's a no-brainer that he's going to opt out.

    I can see denying a trade if you're absolutely going to be a Yankee for the duration. But if that's the case, you can't be considering opting out.
     
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Mustard: Create as many scenariois as you want,
    A-ROD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE UNTIL HE OPTS OUT OF THE DEAL AT THE END OF THE SEASON!

    How does waiving the no-trade give him an extra $20 mill?

    He's due $81 mill over the final 3 years of the deal. He can opt out and will want 5 years for about $30 mill a year.
    How does agreeing to being a rent-a-bat for 2 months enhance his value?

    He sure isn' going to the NL where he doesn' know the pitchers, the parks etc. with two months left before he can opt out of his deal.
     
  6. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    What's he due on the final three years of the deal if he doesn't opt out? Isn't it closer to $30 million per, since the deal was kind of backloaded?

    A-Rod's only 32, but does anyone really think he can equal that on the open market? Is he worth that much more than Soriano ($17 million per)?
     
  7. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    I knew the number was high.

    spnited, do you really see anyone paying $27 million per for a guy who comes with A-Rod's, for lack of a better term, baggage? At least Texas would be picking up a nice-sized chunk of that if he stays in the Bronx.
     
  8. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    I didn't say $20 million. I said if there was $20 to be made by opting out, Boras would have him do it. Teams pay players to ignore their FNTCs all the time.

    So, just to be clear, A-Rod is fully and completely devoted to the Yankees, and only the Yankees, forsaking all others ... for another four months.

    And, just so you know, TYPING IN ALL CAPS isn't going to make everyone all of a sudden go "Oh, yeah, he's right."
     
  9. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    The whole point of the opt-out isn't to match, or even equal, his current salary. It's to extend his peak earning years.

    Which would he rather have? A 3-year deal worth $81 million or a 6-year deal worth $125M ... or $160M (which he very well could get)? It's all about the extra years on the deal.
     
  10. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    The union will NOT want him to lower his average salary.
     
  11. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Boras told the Yankees during the winter that A-Rod would not agree to a trade anywhere.
    Why do you think he would change his mind now to be a two-month rental?
     
  12. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    1) The Yankees and/or the team trading for him will pay him to wave the FNTC
    2) The Yankees stink out loud and aren't going anywhere
    3) Cashman will make it clear he wants to deal A-Rod, for the good of the team
    4) A chance to shine in the playoffs and stick it to Jeter/N.Y.
    5) He's opting out, anyway. What's the difference in leaving two months early?
    6) If he REALLY wants to be -- and stay -- a Yankee, he can leave and the team will get players for him. Then he can just opt out and come back.

    I'm not saying he definitely will. Only that it would make sense for all involved. Too much sense, you could argue.
     
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