Who will be the coach?

Armchair_QB · Nov 27, 2007

Football_Bat said:

Names already being kicked around for Arkansas:

Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville
TCU coach Gary Patterson
North Carolina coach Butch Davis
Tulsa offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn (WTF?)
Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin
Boise State coach Chris Petersen
Oklahoma defensive coordinator Brent Venables
LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pellini
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Auburn's AD has 6 million reasons why Tuberville won't be leaving The Plains for another job any time soon.

Flying Headbutt · Nov 27, 2007

spinning27 said:

Flying Headbutt said:

That's because Holtz sucked as the coach of the Jets and he knew it. He hated it.

Arkansas isn't exactly a glam job, even if it is SEC. Thus, no way in hell that Davis leaves UNC to go there. No way in hell does Tuberville go from Auburn to Arkansas. No way, at all, does Lane Kiffen leave the NFL to go to Bumblefuck, Arkansas.

Anyone who even tosses those names out there needs to heed the advice of Peyton Manning and get their head out of their ass.
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Arkansas is a much better job than y'all are giving it credit for. In the SEC, it's only clearly behind only LSU, Georgia, Florida and maybe Tennessee, maybe Alabama (though you can argue that Arkansas is better than UT and Bama in many ways).

It's clearly a better job than Auburn, Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky and South Carolina and Mississippi State.

Calling Arkansas a "bumblefuck" job is outdated thinking. Why is Fayetteville anymore bumblefuck than Starkville, Oxford, Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, Athens, Baton Rouge, etc.? It may have been true in 1985, but it's not true today. Do you people understand the corporate infrastructure and financial backing Arkansas has with Tyson and Wal Mart? The Northwest Arkansas area isn't cosmopolitan, but when you compare it to the other SEC cities (aside from Nashville and Lexington), there's way more there. And you can actually fly in there on real airplanes, direct from real places like New York!!!! Do you understand the advantage Arkansas has from a fan/booster/media perspective by being the only university in the state? From a recruiting standpoint, the state of Arkansas produces pretty good players, and it's the closest SEC outpost to Texas and Oklahoma.

I think Arkansas is the No. 5 or 6 job at worst in SEC football and the No. 2 job in basketball.
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Great, it's a middle of the pack SEC job. So how does that draw Butch Davis away from UNC? Or Lane Kiffen from the NFL? And that still doesn't explain why Tuberville would leave Auburn, which he's turned into a top-tier program, for Arkansas, which is only a middle of the pack SECer because of what Houston Nutt did before he was run out.

Lester Bangs · Nov 27, 2007

spinning27 said:

Flying Headbutt said:

That's because Holtz sucked as the coach of the Jets and he knew it. He hated it.

Arkansas isn't exactly a glam job, even if it is SEC. Thus, no way in hell that Davis leaves UNC to go there. No way in hell does Tuberville go from Auburn to Arkansas. No way, at all, does Lane Kiffen leave the NFL to go to Bumblefuck, Arkansas.

Anyone who even tosses those names out there needs to heed the advice of Peyton Manning and get their head out of their ass.
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Arkansas is a much better job than y'all are giving it credit for. In the SEC, it's only clearly behind only LSU, Georgia, Florida and maybe Tennessee, maybe Alabama (though you can argue that Arkansas is better than UT and Bama in many ways).

It's clearly a better job than Auburn, Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky and South Carolina and Mississippi State.

Calling Arkansas a "bumblefuck" job is outdated thinking. Why is Fayetteville anymore bumblefuck than Starkville, Oxford, Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, Athens, Baton Rouge, etc.? It may have been true in 1985, but it's not true today. Do you people understand the corporate infrastructure and financial backing Arkansas has with Tyson and Wal Mart? The Northwest Arkansas area isn't cosmopolitan, but when you compare it to the other SEC cities (aside from Nashville and Lexington), there's way more there. And you can actually fly in there on real airplanes, direct from real places like New York!!!! Do you understand the advantage Arkansas has from a fan/booster/media perspective by being the only university in the state? From a recruiting standpoint, the state of Arkansas produces pretty good players, and it's the closest SEC outpost to Texas and Oklahoma.

I think Arkansas is the No. 5 or 6 job at worst in SEC football and the No. 2 job in basketball.
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So, the No. 2 basketball job in the SEC drew ... John Pelphrey? And the last time they made a football hire it was Houston Nutt, a prodigal son, but he was still Houston Nutt, who had done next to nothing at Boise State?

Hey, Arkansas is a fine job, no doubt ... but it is not better than Auburn, at least not right now.

spinning27 · Nov 27, 2007

because everybody in sec football has a shelf life. it happened to nutt. it is happening to fulmer. and it will happen to tuberville. I am not saying he will go to arkansas but he would be smart to get out ahead of the posse and get the next guaranteed contract before auburn fans start calling for his head after a couple more 8-4 or 9-3 years

spinning27 · Nov 27, 2007

come on lester. the basketball hire was complicated because of AD uncertainty. none of the big names they went after was going to leave a good situation without knowing who their AD was going to be

Inky_Wretch · Nov 27, 2007

Butch Davis grew up about 20 miles from Fayetteville. Tommy Tuberville is also a native Arkansan.

That might be a draw for those two.

Flying Headbutt · Nov 27, 2007

Well now Inky makes a little sense. Still, I don't see it happening.

Lester Bangs · Nov 27, 2007

spinning27 said:

come on lester. the basketball hire was complicated because of AD uncertainty. none of the big names they went after was going to leave a good situation without knowing who their AD was going to be
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Yeah, I get that ... but I also get that Arkansas has had enough garbage happen to it (much of it by its own hand) that it's not what it once was as far as luster. In that way it is a lot like Bama. I also look at it kind of like UCLA was when Lavin and Toledo were doing their business. Always a player and a big pot of potential, but the bloom is off the rose. I mean, UCLA football? That job should be a jewel and it's become something of a turd. Love to see Chris Peterson at Arkansas. I think he'd be great ... a new-jack Spurrier, but nice.

spinning27 · Nov 27, 2007

let's just pretend that nutt and tuberville had switched places over the last few years. what would auburn have been with nutt? what would arkansas have been with tuberville?

Flying Headbutt · Nov 27, 2007

So what? Where are they now?

mpcincal · Nov 27, 2007

D-3 Fan said:

This is from left field, but is there any truth to the rumor that Monte Kiffin is interested in returning to Lincoln? Kiffin was a Nebraska grad and was a candidate before Callahan was picked.
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I believe it was Joe Schad I saw on SportsCenter yesterday who said Monte Kiffin was going to push to get the Nebraska job, and if he got it he would bring along (wait for it) ............ Ed Orgeron as the head-coach-in-waiting.

micropolitan guy · Nov 27, 2007

Seattle Times on coaching possibilities at Wazzu:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/cougars/2004036977_cougchart27.html

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