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Who Will be the Next Coach at Notre Dame

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Your point is well-taken but the facts are a little off. The 2005 USC game was early in the season, when they were 4-1. In 2006 they were 10-1 and got shit stomped by USC at the Coliseum. Even if they won that game, they weren't getting into the title game. Florida goes before they do. Then Michigan, which would have gotten a rematch with Ohio State before Notre Dame would have gotten to go over a Michigan team that had absolutely demolished them at home that year.
     
  2. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    Double checked. You are correct on that.
     
  3. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    And I wasn't saying they were getting into the title game any of those years. Just that they were at least in the mix of teams.
     
  4. This may be oversimplifying things, but one of Weis' biggest drawbacks as a college coach is he always tried to win games one at a time instead of building a program that could win and get better over the course of an entire season.

    Every week was a chance for Charlie to outfox his opponent and eek out the victory with his decided schematic advantage. He admitted as much when he said after Pitt that on the road you have to start conservatively and keep it close to give yourself a chance in the second half or something like that.

    There was also the 2007 opener, when he had basically an all new team and should have been trying to get it up to speed on the fundamentals and establishing an identity. Instead, he tried to gimmick his way to a win over Georgia Tech with Rich Rodriguez's schemes, and the program never really recovered.

    To me, you trade the potential loss in exchange for establishing an identity and a foundation that gives your team a starting point to grow from. Instead, he thought he was going to smoke-and-mirror his way one game at a time to the BCS with puppies.

    You think Pete Carroll coaches his program that way? You think Urban Meyer does?
     
  5. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    Yeah with all the talk about Weis being such an "offensive genius," I've never been too impressed with his play calling. Obviously winning 3 Super Bowls as offensive coordinator proves he knew a little something about the NFL game, but college is a completely different game. Success at one level does not guarantee success at the other. And success as a coordinator or position coach does not mean success as a head coach. I think Weis is a classic example of both of those.
     
  6. X-Hack

    X-Hack Well-Known Member

    I have no idea if anyone already responded to this -- I'm only on p 4 of a 10-page thread that I probably won't read to the end. But TCU doesn't belong on that list. Despite its name, it's a secular school that happens to have a historical tie to the Disciples of Christ Church. It's no BYU, Baylor, Liberty, ND or even BC with a front-and-center religious mission. As far as I know, there's no theology requirement to graduate either. They do have a divinity school. So does that noted religious school, Harvard. TCU also has no mention of God, Jesus or the Church in its mission statement.
     
  7. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    The answer to the question in the slug: "Not Urban Meyer."

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hswaj1NLqXueELnBIbr0TGtfbM4gD9C5E88O0
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    That is the Belichick way - adjusting each week to team you are playing. Works in the NFL when you have Tom Brady but not in college.

    To me I think Charlie's biggest flaw was his arrogant personality ( I'm Charlie Weis and your not) . He Thought he was Bill Parcells except he did not have the pelts.

    In the end what will do him in is hubris. By end of year 1 he had already turned the local media and football alumni against him and has never recovered.
     
  9. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Mark Mangino.

    But, if he ever crosses himself, he'll get mad and cuss himself out.
     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    As of today. All coaches always say that shit.

    As for Tony Dungy: in many ways he would be a very good choice, but he is a born-again evangelical Christian, and that movement is not known for its affinity for Catholicism.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Ara Parseghian was Presbyterian
     
  12. Ashy Larry

    Ashy Larry Active Member

    Is there anything specific about Catholicism they don't like?
     
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