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Who Will be the Next Coach at Notre Dame

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. If they paid him more it would be.

    And if Utah people are angry about him leaving Utah for Florida, they are unfathomably clueless.
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    If Meyer had not won at Utah the people would hate him more. It's a quint and unrealistic notion for coaches to stay at D1 schools forever. The only time they have maximum leverage to advance is when they are winning. Most head coaches have multiple experiences of losing their jobs as assistants after a losing season and the head guy is gassed. No doubt this experience shapes all future decisions they make. Meyer got to see it first hand with Earle Bruce at Ohio State.

    If he gets a better deal at ND he should take it and not look back.

    If Meyer gets a better deal at ND he should take it.
     
  3. I'm surprised at how infrequently people include money as a factor when discussing "good jobs." Like anything else, that comes first in determining the market. Everything else - recruiting base, facilities, tradition, etc,. etc. - comes second.
     
  4. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    Utah people weren't pissed that he left. They were pissed because he swore up and down that he was going to stay for several years but then he was gone a year later. It wasn't the leaving part, it was the lying part.

    To his credit though, I think the turning point came in 2004(?) when Utah went undefeated and smashed Pitt 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl. I think he then realized that he would never win a national championship at Utah because of the flawed system in which Utah will never be given a shot at a title no matter what (the same thing happened again in 2008 when they went undefeated and crushed Alabama in the BCS bowl).

    So he may have realized that he'd never get a national title at Utah and that could've changed his mind about staying.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    To be fair, that Pitt team is one of the weakest ever to play in a BCS Bowl since the new system was put in place.
     
  6. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    That has nothing to do with anything. My point is that Utah -- as long as they stay in their current conference -- will never get a title shot with the current BCS system and that may have influenced Meyer to go to a school that was "eligible" to play for a title. How good or bad the teams they play in the BCS (non-title) bowl games have nothing to do with anything.
     
  7. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    I don't know that programs outside the BCS will never get a spot in the NC game. Although it's unlikely, TCU is on the doorstep now.
     
  8. WolvEagle

    WolvEagle Well-Known Member

    I'm sure Michigan fans would LOVE to see Notre Dame snag Rich Rodriguez. Ohio State fans, though, wouldn't want to see him go.
     
  9. golfnut8924

    golfnut8924 Guest

    Well since the system's been in place, Utah has gone undefeated twice (and won both BCS bowl games) and Boise State went undefeated and beat Oklahoma in the BCS (did Boise do it a second time? I can't recall).

    So three times now it's been proven that some teams just aren't eligible. I think it could maybe happen if all the other big-time schools had 2 losses but what are the odds that Florida, USC, Texas, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. are all going to have 2 losses in the same year? Not likely. Any two of those schools with only one loss will make it in over an undefeated Utah, Boise or TCU.

    As much as I'd love to see it happen, it's not going to.
     
  10. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    South Bend isn't going to pay Urban what he would want.

    Holding your breath for any so-called "offer you
    can't refuse" from South Bend is an exercise in suicide.
     
  11. I don't think so, either. I'm just saying that we - both writers and fans - often tend to define a "good job" based on what we think are important factors from the outside, while undervaluing the most important component of all when you are actually someone pursuing a job.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Don't under estimate the wife and kids either.
     
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