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Who Will be the Next Coach at Notre Dame

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    It's sports. He's a coach. A bigger, better sports institute wanted him to coach their team, and he accepted. There really is no more of a story.

    But I do agree with whomever said there should be a rule that allows student-athletes who went to a school because of coach to be able to leave that school immediately without penalty, if he or she chooses.

    But this whole outrage seems absurd. He's a coach, and coaches up and go all the time.
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I think instead of being "the hottest coach" that Kelly was more the only choice available. It reminds me of the guy who gets married to the girl he is not really sure about but is pretty much at end of line.

    Football more than any other sport is a commitment sport. From youth game on it's what succesfull coaches ask of their players. It really bothers me not to see coaches live up to their end of the bargain.
     
  3. Except that the contract really is not "his word." There are liquidated damages aka buyouts written into them preparing for exactly this contingency. Everybody knows what's going on. It's a business transaction, pure and simple. Don't try to make it something more noble than that, because it's not. The University of Cincinnati is not a victim.

    And, Boom, that line of thinking went out with Marvin Miller. I never knew you to be such a bleeding heart.
     
  4. zimmaniac06

    zimmaniac06 Member

    I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. The freaking school isn't required to keep him around until the end of his contract if he does poorly, but he is expected to stick around to the end if he does well? What kind of a double standard is that? No one is denying that the situation sucks, but let's not pretend this guy is a total sellout like some of the others mentioned (Petrino, Saben, etc.). Cincy is just building its first practice facility, for crying out loud, and he's an Irish-Catholic from the Boston area leaving for his dream job at Notre Dame. You're holding him to an unreasonable standard.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    In this case the "hottest coach" was also the best choice. Kelly has won everywhere he's been and fits the mold ND is looking for in a coach.
     
  6. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    If it isn't Notre Dame, Missouri or Pitt are the only ones that make sense. not seeing Louisville or Cincinnati in the Big Televen
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Let's be honest, if Kelly were to actually live in this mythical world where coaches always serve out their contracts before agreeing to go somewhere else, he'd still be at Central Michigan, and Cincinnati wouldn't have the chance to be upset. It's ridiculous. Besides, the last coach who actually worked through his final year of his contract was for all intents and purposes fired by the school.
    I would love to see the list of coaches Notre Dame would have to choose from who were in the final year of their contracts.

    And I agree with golfnut, hiring Kelly will make the boosters and sports columnists happy, but Parseghian and Devine weren't "hot coaches" when they were hired. They had long track record. But if you take in his years at Grand Valley, Central Mich, and Cincy, throw in the lack of NCAA problems and his teams' graduation rates, I think he's a solid choice. I'll be surprised if he fails. I don't know if they'll get to National Championshipville again, but they should be a perennial top 15 -20 team.

    I'd vote for Pitt in the Big 10, anything to see another Pitt-Penn State football game. Don't know how they would divy up teams though, no way they put Pitt, Penn State, Michigan and Ohio State and Michigan State in the same division, leaving Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa State, Illinois, Purdue and Indiana. The Big East has improved enough where it would almost make more sense for the Nits to dump the Big 10 and join the Big East.
     
  8. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    It's not about honoring the life of the contract. I don't know where that came up.

    Giving bogus answers to the media that the media probably know are bullshit. Check.

    Telling the players you're not Mark Dantonio, and them believing you. Check.

    Informing your players you're hitting the Yellow Brick Road -- at a celebratory team banquet. Check.

    The handing was abysmal.

    Waylon, that you would argue the regular season is sufficient work proves how upside-down fucked the system is. By that reasoning, the conductor is free to make way before the biggest recital of the year. His work is complete.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I accept the football premise that the word of head coach is his bond.
     
  10. I don't think that's a fair analogy. The journey in college football is getting there. The game is a reward. How do you explain Alabama's performance last year? Oklahoma's against Boise State before that? Kansas State against Purdue in the Alamo Bowl the year they were pissed about not getting a BCS bid?

    That may not be how you view it, but that's how the coaches (in all honesty) do, and how most of the players do. I understand why the Cincy players might feel differently, playing the defending national champs and such.

    One thing you said rings 100 percent true, though - the system is upside down fucked.
     
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Of course, it all goes back to this-- Brian Kelly wouldn't likely be leaving if the Bearcats, a team that went 12-0 in the regular season in a BCS conference -- next game actually meant something.

    Yep, a great system we have here for this sport........ ::)

    As for the players whining - I don't think any of them did themselves any favors with this.

    College coaches leave for bigger paychecks, get over it and more importantly, did Mardy Gilyard and company cry a river for Central Michigan's players when Kelly bailed on them before the bowl game to go to Cincy?
     
  12. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    So it isn't possible that Utah and Boise State were actually better than Alabama and Oklahoma? Clearly when a BCS school loses to a mid-major, it's because they didn't care. Did you even think before you posted, or are you so into believing how great Notre Dame is that you've lost the ability to think first?
     
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