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Who Will be the Next Coach at Notre Dame

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    No way, SC.

    Waylon thinks Notre Dame has just had a few bad fall Saturdays the last few years. Of course the Irish were - and are - better.
     
  2. I think Alabama played like garbage last year, that's what I think. I watched the game and I think they played like garbage. Notice I didn't bring up Utah shit-stomping Pitt. So, yes, I did "even think" before I posted.

    Not sure why you would have that kind of angry emotional reaction to the notion that some teams take the bowls more seriously than others?

    And I'm also not sure where you're getting this I "think Notre Dame is so great" from? Because I don't endorse the ad nauseum repeated mantras that aren't true (i.e. they need to join a conference, they always get into the BCS unfairly, that they don't have "speed," etc.)? They have been a poorly coached team that is deficient on the offensive and defensive fronts, particularly the defensive front talent-wise.
     
  3. Den1983

    Den1983 Active Member

    Kelly did nothing wrong here. As was said, he was in a tough spot. Coach his team in a BCS game at a chance at an undefeated season or give it up for a shot at his dream job and a huge step up in the coaching ranks.

    Not sure how you can fault him for making the move. For those who are mad that he betrayed the kids and the program, life is not a Disney movie. This is the real world, where we all are in search for better and bigger opportunities and will do anything to achieve our definition of success.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Nine-hundred-ninety-nine of a 1000 people do exactly what Kelly did. It's human. It's also, IMO, weak. I don't think it's a good signal to his new team, let alone his old one.
     
  5. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    For the people who think Kelly should coach the bowl, anyone remember how swimmingly Wlat's last game at Pitt went, or Crazy Uncle Mike's at Washington State? I can tell you that Wlat spent most of his week in Arizona shmoozing Stanford people and I'd dare to say he didnt give one half of a shit about the preparation for that game...and it showed.
     
  6. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    So, in so many words, you think Utah "lucked" into that win in New Orleans?

    No. Freaking. Way. The Utes earned the game. Too bad if you seem to think that a football factory can lose to David every great once in a while. Sometimes, that slingshot can inflict a nasty little blow.
     
  7. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    And maybe that's the problem. The consummation means zilch. It's left to the whim of the equivalency of the West German judge.

    You can tell a lot about a person by how they leave a job. That's one thing it took time for me to learn and I wished I did it better as a younger person -- I've bared my ass before too. He's entitled to what he wants, and whatever he thinks he deserves -- he won 12 ultimately hollow football games for God's sake -- but there's a way to exit a stage, and the way he handled it says enough about him. Notre Dame doesn't look much better.
     
  8. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Can't bump the bowl season up because of finals at most schools. Check their academic calendars.
     
  9. STLIrish

    STLIrish Active Member

    Well, sure. But unless you're playing for the title, the bowl is basically an exhibition game. Reason No. 4,312 for a playoff. And if Colt McCoy dicks around for another half second before chucking that ball out of bounds last week, Brian Kelly's still the head coach at Cincinnati and playing for the national championship and Notre Dame gets Randy Edsall or waits a month.
    Could Kelly have handled it better with his team? Probably. But this isn't his fault. He's playing in the system as it exists right now. So is Notre Dame. Hell, even their interim coach got hired away this week.
    They need to either shorten the downtime, or change the recruiting calendar. Because most programs aren't going to go six weeks without a head coach the way things are set up now.
     
  10. Did I say that?

    You and SC need to relax a little bit. Doesn't it often happen that in any given game, one team may play well and one team poorly? Even coaches say that all the time: "We have to play perfect and hope that they make some mistakes." Nobody is picking on Utah or trying to diminish their victory. But if you can't see why a BCS game might be more important to the mid-major than the team that was one quarter from playing for it all, then you are letting your emotions get in the way of your judgment.

    Also, as far as Notre Dame goes, it is impossible, absolutely impossible, to have a rational conversation about that program. If you don't absolutely rip the shit out of them at every turn, then you must sleep with a Joe Montana jersey on. Like any other program, if you say something like their recruits are overrated or they need to join this conference or that conference, you have to back that up with at least some subtance. "Everybody knows it" or "Some guy I went to high school with ..." is not an argument.

    Someone, for example, said Miami rode the Big East to glory. That is patently false. Miami won three national titles as an independent. Facts, guys. Facts.
     
  11. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    You keep missing this boat. Ara
    guided Northwestern to its first sustained period of prosperity since the 30's -- and was the first coach
    to beat the precious Irish four years running . . . one of the major reasons he was hired. He was the last great coach Dame's had.
    Holtz was and is a lot of things, but he wasn't a great coach when the
    clock was running.
     
  12. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Then why are the Div. I-AA, Div. II and Div. III playoffs taking place now and not in two weeks? Or the College Cup soccer finals? Or any other in a long list of sporting events that are still going on during finals?
     
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