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Why don't sabermetricians manage baseball teams

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SkiptomyLou, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. MankyJimy

    MankyJimy Active Member

    Agree with you there! Marilyn was great for her time but that time was long ago. Sorta like Ted Williams.
     
  2. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    OMG, stop typing.
     
  3. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    IJAG > Rashad McCants
     
  4. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Why doesn't HE manage a baseball team?
     
  5. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Davey Johnson and Earl Weaver were, and are, real managers.
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Here's one. How do sabermetrics help the manager when his starting pitcher who has sucked all year gets a text message from TMZ.com one hour before he takes the mound in a game the team absolutely, positively has to win?
    That's what happened to John Lackey last night. That's another indication why managing the game itself is approximately 15-20 percent of what a manager really does.
     
  7. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    No, but they have talent in the system ... Pastornicky and Andrelton Simmons will both be major-league ready, soon.
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Exactly. There are and have been plenty of big-league managers who successfully employ stats in their game strategies and most front offices arm their managers and players with enough information to make your head explode. It would be a disaster, however, to stick some stat geek in the dugout and expect him/her to command the respect of major league players.
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Earl Weaver was legendary/notorious/mythical in the 60s/70s for keeping detailed situational stats (LH/RH splits, etc etc). And derided sometimes by the old-timers managing "by the seat of their pants."
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    A manager should probably at least have a working knowledge of the basics. Don't be Dusty Baker and complain that guys walk too much and "clog the bases."

    A bench coach should have more than a working knowledge.

    Have you ever sat in on or observed a pregame pow wow? To assume that managers and coaches don't know their way around a spreadsheet is ludicrous in this day and age. They have printouts that would make your head spin on defensive positioning, hitter tendencies, and everything in between.
     
  11. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    I remember features on hitting charts and splits against individual pitchers in the early 1970s. This isn't sliced bread here. The glorification of this stuff is a product of the superior-to-thou snark of the Net. But yeah, being a manager is about managing people, not a game.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    In crayon.
     
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