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Why they hate us

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Jake from State Farm, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    I decided to become a journalist because all my favorite writers (Frank Herbert, Raymond Chandler) had been. Gave no consideration to the angry, political side of reader responses because I knew nothing about that.

    I guess I am attracted to jobs that the public hates and thinks they know how to do better. That is why I am announcing right now my candidacy for the U.S. House of Representatives.

    Win big. Win narrow. Vote for Garrow.
     
  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    How does your station know the female anchor affects ratings and you do not? Seriously. It seems that just from reading about audience research in local news there is a fair amount of quackery among the consultants.
     
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  3. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Agree with most of that, but would say I think the image of “the media” is different from person to person.

    Some people who say “the fucking media is the problem with this country” and mean Fox News and Breitbart, OAN and Gateway Pundit.

    Some people say “the media sucks, etc.” and mean everything from MSNBC to Vox to NYT and ABC.

    They all definitely agree the media sucks, though. They’re just talking about entirely different media.

    That’s only part of the problem though.

    I think about how much hate I see The Athletic get on my college football message board and I have a hard time processing it. How can you hate The Athletic? It’s mostly talented people trying their damnedest to tell good stories about their local teams.

    These are the kind of people who have no sort of nuanced understanding of the state of sports journalism, though they think they do and are positive they know what’s wrong at ESPN :rolleyes:.

    Nevertheless, there’s a significant contingent that’s actively hoping for the site to fail. I see no logical reason besides just a deep, ingrained hate of journalists.
     
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  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    This sort of stuff has always been present, directed at politicians and journalists, bubbling away just below the surface.

    It has moved from the outraged margins to the outraged mainstream.

     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    If you were working in the news business in the 1970s in the American midwest, you were all too aware of the threat posed by violent white supremacist/neo-Nazi terror groups like Posse Comitatus.

    Encyclopedia of the Great Plains | POSSE COMITATUS
     
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  6. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    In Marquette, where two of the three networks came in on transmitters from Green Bay, we were very aware of the RWNJs comprising the Posse Comitatus
     
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  7. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Speak for yourself, no one hates me. Cept maybe my father in law
     
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  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Nothing exists until the NYT discovers it.
     
  9. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    May I mention here that I appreciate the insight into the TV news business that people like exmediahack and PC (among others) provide on this site.

    It's easy for us print guys (if we can still be called that in the newspaper business) to complain about local TV broadcasters reading our copy on the air, doing their inane Friday night sports highlights, and parking their van in the fire lane at crowded games/events. But just like newspapers, the local TV stations are trying to squeeze every last ounce of blood from the turnip, and it's making a bitter stew for their employees.
     
  10. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    Cable news networks are getting the perception of cable sports networks
    Just like MLB, NFL and NHL networks, Fox is the Republican network and MSNBC the Dems, though the most notable thing are all the former Republicans who work there
    I think that’s why right wingers give CNN the most shit since it claims objectivity
     
  11. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    I had an appreciation from working the TV/radio beat, which has disappeared
    If you think newspapers is a nomadic business…
     
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  12. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    The thing TV news does that newspapers rarely do is to promote their journalists as personalities. Maybe the people would love us more if they knew how much we love them.
     
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