Will Caleb Hannan ever address the Dr. V story?

I'm pretty sure it's only the second thread on the topic, and I didn't start the first one, which would still be open -- it was a good discussion -- if a certain poster (using a brand new handle, but we all know who it was) didn't intentionally disrupt the thread.

And, I'm not sure why you think this is "trolling" or why the fact that it interests me but not you is such a big deal.

As for other topics, folks are/were free to start and.or participate in discussions on them.

 

If Granland did not do this...

http://grantland.com/features/the-dr-v-story-a-letter-from-the-editor/

then he might have something.

 

Which ignores how central Hannan was to the story.

He's also not some anonymous middle manager at a big corporation who made a mistake. We know who he is, and he's not media adverse. He's not the kind of guy who would be uncomfortable expressing himself in the written word, or in an interview.

He's also the one who discovered the story, packaged and pitched it, reported it, wrote it, and then re-wrote it after Dr. V killed herself. This was his top to bottom.

Simmons can apologize for his role, but this was Hannan's story from top to bottom. He owns the story, he owns the mistakes, and he owns the backlash.

I think his role as a freelancer also factors in.

If he was an employee, people would be calling for him to be fired, and we'd be able to judge weather or not Disney/ESPN/Grantland handled it well. Did they suspend him, fire him, etc.

But, as a freelancer, that means the question shifts to who will publish his next story.

 

Yeah, have fun reading that slop.
Could you honestly get through that?
Enough for it to leave any kind of impression?

 

You know, far from handing over a pound of flesh to Shylock, it's unclear to me weather Hannan, or anyone else, has suffered any negative consequences as a result of the piece.

Hannan's standing as a writer, reporter and storyteller actually appears to have risen among his colleagues in the longform coterie.

And, while Simmons fell on his sword, and accepted blame for the mistakes in the piece, I'm unaware of any consequences he faced as a result. He certainly wasn't fired or suspended, and we've heard nothing about any other editor who worked on the story facing any consequences.

(And, though Simmons offered a long winded "apology" he hasn't answered a single question on the matter.)

Has Hannan's career been hurt? I don't think we know yet.

Simmons sounds like he's be willing to give him another chance:

When Michale Sam came out as a gay man, reporters scrambled to judge how this would impact his draft status. Would teams be willing to employ him. A number of executives were quoted as saying they would be happy to have a Michael Sam on their squad, and others -- off the record -- said they didn't think the NFL was ready for a gay player.

I'm unaware of any effort by anyone to ask editors at the publications that have worked with Hannan in the past (and/or similar outlets) weather or not they would be comfortable assigning a story to Hannan at this time.

Maybe that's a project Songbird can tackle. I'd be curious to know the answer.

 

Yes, no one should ever get a second or third chance when they crap out of something.

On an unrelated topic... can you see a mirror right now?

 

Who said that?

Don Imus, Lara Logan, Dan Rather, Mike Barnicle, and a host of others have had second and/or third chances.

But, all of them suffered some consequences for their actions, addressed the issue, and served some penance before getting another shot.

So far, as best I can tell, Hannan hasn't suffered any consequences, addressed the issue, or served any penance.

Will he get another chance before he does? Does he deserve it?

There will be an uproar from folks if he is published again and hasn't apologized for outing Dr. V. And, the uproar will be against both Hannan and the who ever publishes him. Knowing that, why would anyone publish him?

 

I don't think there will be an uproar at all. Most people have forgotten about it and have moved on... Just not you.

 

You couldn't be more wrong.

The trans community, along with their friends and supporters, is small, but they are not at all satisfied. They remain very upset.

This small community tore this story apart, and sent Hannan into hiding. You don't think they'll make life miserable for the next outlet that publishes him if he's said nothing on this subject?

 

The trans community cared SO much about Dr. V that in the time between her suicide and the article's posting date ... that there are very few, if any, mentions of Dr. V's death on social media or the web itself.

The trans community did NOT start demanding "#JusticeForDrV" until more than two months AFTER her suicide. Nothing immediate at all.

In a related note, the grassroots #JusticeForDrV" tweets did NOT start until the grantland story went live.

You don't find that strange or coincidental at all?

No one in the trans community spoke up for her in those two-plus months?

The trans community may be in an uproar NOW (even though it has significantly gone down), but it will move on. Pretty sure it has.

Twitter wise, all you have to do is search for Dr. V or Hannan. See how many mentions you get compared to January.

The interest in Dr. V has fallen off the proverbial cliff.

As soon as Sam came out, the LBGT community quickly moved on to in and just like the two months it took for the LBGT to figure out Dr. V lived and died, forgot on social media Dr. V even existed at all.

A football player's their cause -- for now. Not a lying golf club designer who tried to equate "designing things that FLY" (V's direct quote) scientifically to rolling the ball on the GROUND on well-manicured grass.

 

I wouldn't want the guy's conscience.
What must it be like to do life's most mundane things and know in the back of up your head you played a part in somebody's death?

 

I agree with that.

However, it was documented Dr. V had tried committing suicide several times before.

In the azcentral follow -- aside, how did azcentral WHIFF this story in its own backyard prior to grantland -- Dr. V's partner said Dr. V had tried suicide another time Hannan did NOT mention. Pretty sure Dr. V's partner admitted to azcentral (paraphrasing here):

"It was only a matter of time. This just sped up the process."

Brings up an interesting journalistic question: Should we stay away from writing about subjects with documented suicidal tendencies?