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Will Caleb Hannan ever address the Dr. V story?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by YankeeFan, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What was there to say before the article came out?

    Until publication, who knew that she had been outed to an investor (and possibly others), and posthumously to the public at large? Who would have suspected that her suicide may have been triggered by Hannah's questioning and actions? (Which, you don't have to believe, but many in the trans community do believe.)

    Interest in the story may be low right now. Hannan hasn't spoken. Simmons refuses to take questions regarding it.

    And, maybe this will all blow over with no repercussions for Hannan. I don't think that's the case. I suppose time will tell.
     
  2. Central-KY-Kid

    Central-KY-Kid Well-Known Member

    What was there to say? I don't know, saddened by her death?

    It didn't matter if it was the straight, hetero, non-LBGT ... hard to find ANYBODY even mentioning or being saddened Dr. V was gone until grantland.

    It's a long-delayed retribution/remorse/anger, if you will.

    I'm confused by the whole thing. Did she try to keep it private -- to the point she said her Krol family DIED (which must have been strange when they showed up at the funeral and to collect her belongings, according to the azcentral) -- but I thought I read either in Hannan's story or azcentral that people close to her knew and didn't care or accepted her?

    Yet still, no one cared -- at least in the public realm of social media -- she was dead for two months until grantland went live.

    Only AFTER she was outed (or dead, perhaps both) did anyone in the LBGT community care she was one of their own.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I really don't understand your point.

    To the degree that she was a public figure, she was a very minor public figure, and only those close to her would have known she was trans, or, likely, the circumstances of her death (i.e. that she killed herself).

    Most people didn't know who she was, or know her story, until Grantland published it.
     
  4. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I am curious to know what this guy is really like.
    He looks like a hipster douche in his pictures, but I mean what he's really like.
    Does he lack compassion?
     
  5. If the trans community had recognized Dr. V's death publicly before the story, then obviously the story could not be blamed for outing her.
     
  6. Central-KY-Kid

    Central-KY-Kid Well-Known Member

    Agreed, yet some would STILL be demanding a pound of flesh from Hannan -- but not the Duke frat boys who ran rampant with where a female freshman works under a fake name (just like Essay Anne Vanderbilt had an alter ego) -- for outing her to an investor (although the frat boys' outing was FAAAAAAAR more public than Hannan's).

    But NOBODY, unless based on any internet search combination, even admitted she was dead in those two months.
    -- Not on Yars' website.
    -- No facebook memorials.
    -- No twitter mentions from people in the golf profession (no McCord, no pros who used her club, no fellow designers).
    -- Even the newspaper obit was about as bare-bones as it gets.

    Doesn't matter if it was straight, bi, gay, hetero, LBGT, whatever -- no one seemed to care she was gone for TWO MONTHS until grantland came along.

    I guess it is entirely possible that anybody and everybody who knew Vanderbilt thought it best to keep it as private as possible. Yes, 100 percent of them.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You're not making any sense.

    The idea that folks are being unreasonable because they are not satisfied with Hannan, and are demanding a pound of flesh is silly. To date, there's no evidence that he's surrendered an ounce of flesh, let alone a pound.

    He's not apologized. He's not said a word about the article. Why should the people that are upset be satisfied? They don't even know if he's sorry.

    And, it's irrelevant that the folks who knew Vanderbilt didn't publicly memorialize her. They're not the ones who will make a stink the next time Hannan is published, assuming he's still never spoken of the Dr. V article and/or apologized.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Some good news for Hannan! The lawsuit involving the Seattle Weekly story he edited has been dismissed:

     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    When he does return, he'll be a much better writer since he won't have to devote so much time to being the ethics schoolmarm that he previously has been.
     
  10. Gold

    Gold Active Member

    If you are John Boehner, Speaker of the House
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Boehner doesn't take questions from the press?
     
  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    As it should.
     
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