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Women and the Masters, here we go again

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by vivbernstein, Apr 10, 2011.

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  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Sure, apparently it's the case a lot.

    To act like female reporters should keep their tweets shut and let their boss handle this unpleasantness is so charmingly 1960s.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Except, in order to color the debate in your special way, you twist it to equate keeping their Tweets shut to staying in the kitchen.

    Ace, you're sounding a little more militant on this with every post. Just face it ... there are better grounds on which to fight this battle than a clueless security guard in Augusta, Ga. It IS a battle worth waging. Just not in this particular venue.

    If you and they cannot find a better venue on which to wage this war, then that's a good thing, too, because it would mean this sort of unfortunate incident doesn't happen very often anymore.
     
  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    You and others specifically said she shouldn't be tweeting on deadline and making a big deal about it and should have let her boss handle the situation.

    I was just putting it in context.
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Putting it in context = twisting it to make your opponent look like a miscreant.

    1.0. Seven years and going strong.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Stand back, honey, let the menfolk sort this out.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Hey, if you and the rest of the ladies want to take this, be my guest.
     
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    What you don't understand is that this happens a lot to women.

    How would you like to be chasing a story on a huge news day at Augusta and told you couldn't go in a locker room where others just went?

    It would throw a little wrench in your plans and make you upset, anxious and angry, I bet.

    So instead of support from colleagues on this board, you get some guys saying women are being militant or that it's a silly issue.

    Sure, it could have been an honest mistake. Doesn't mean it's a trifle or that Augusta gets a free pass, though.

    I've worked with a lot of female sportswriters. Some of the very best in the business.

    And it pisses me off when they don't get support from their colleagues.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    You're not going to get over here, and I'm not going to get over there. That's all we have.
     
  9. daemon

    daemon Well-Known Member

    Ace - I'm not saying she shouldn't have been pissed, or even that she was wrong to air her grievances publicly. All I'm saying is that a security guard preventing a woman from goig into a mens locker room is something that would happen in pretty much every walk of life except a post-game media session. And it sounds like the security guard was clueless. And that is partly Augusta national's fault. But it really doesn't seem like this is an example of institutional sexism, which is what you seem to want support for.
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    There's a term I've been circling around, and it just seems apt.

    Liberal guilt.
     
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    It may not be in this case (though I'd love to see you make the case that Augusta National isn't one of the country's most shining examples of sexism).

    I can certainly see both sides of whether this was Augusta's fault through poor training or worse or that is was just a regrettable error.

    But to act like she should not have let it bother her because it was a simple mistake is just silly.
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    You want to try using that in a sentence?
     
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