Women and the Masters, here we go again

My problem in making the leap from point A to point B here is that nowhere have I seen an indication that the Augusta officials were even asked about what kind of training/instruction the guards received. We just make an assumption that the security guard's failing was due to some lapse by officials. For all we know, the guards were told specifically that they should allow female reporters into the locker rooms and this one was either asleep or decided on her own to impose her own rules.

I would argue further that on stories about non-journalists, we would not jump to such a facile conclusion -- we would ask the question, "Well, what were the security guards told?" My feeling is that in journalism, as in life in general, if your default position is the "lone nut theory," you will be correct 98.7 percent of the time. Journalistically, I am not comfortable blaming officials when all we know for a fact is that one security guard thought it was a problem to allow a woman into the locker room.

 

Was there nothing on her credential that said: "Locker room access"?

The Masters, and really any sports organization at any level, ought to put up some kind of sign by the locker room that has the rules. In MLB there's one outside every clubhouse, so any idiot security guard at his first day on the job just has to look up and it's all right there.

I'm also wondering how much time passed between when she coudln't get in to the locker room and when she found a Masters official to tell her she should have been allowed. If McIlroy was still on the premises, it would have been nice for them to get him for her. If they'd done that (whether setting up a one-on-one in the locker room or elsewhere), would we be having this conversation?

 

It's like I said: If you have institutional compliance to this affront, then the problem is bigger than this.

But there are still people out there who see a black guy and a white woman together and say that's wrong.

And there are still people out there who meet a young man with an earring and say, "We don't like your kind roun' here."

That doesn't make a quorum. That makes a lone unenlightened individual here and there.

And perhaps Augusta officials didn't feel the NEED to post a sign that said, "Locker room access means locker room access for EVERYONE, stupid." They might have just forgotten that there are lone unenlightened individuals here and there.

 

Why even bring up what the next guard would or wouldn't do if you are not at least offering the person a chance to find out?

 

Somewhere, Martha Burk is saying, "See? See?"

 

Shotglass, what's your agenda here? Every single woman who has posted on this thread or discussed it elsewhere has stated unequivocally that this kind of stuff happens. It's not fantasy or trivial or silly, despite your tedious and repetitious posts to make it so.

And assuming it was a stupid mistake by one uninformed guard, that's all the reason to make an issue of it, so the NEXT uninformed guard can be better informed. No woman in the business needs approval to make that happen.

 

I guess that's the point I disagree with. You really think the NEXT uninformed guard is going to be educated by this? Please. In other words, save the outrage for a situation in which everyone can truly line up behind you and yours. This is not it.

I don't know. I think there were some good arguments there, and obviously some other people do, too. Sorry if you thought they were tedious. As far as repetitious, no more than yours.

And nobody said it was fantasy. That's entirely your defense mechanism at work.

 

So you'll take care of letting us know when we should be upset about something? It's so nice to be looked after.

 

You're funny. You be upset about anything you want to be upset about. Just don't get outraged when the rest of the population doesn't stand behind you, pounding you on the back.

 

I think you need to get the women of sj a beer, noob

 

ROFL. I really should.

 

But I meant that to be 21.