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Worthwhile Will Leitch essay on Bill Simmons

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Double Down, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Who said he had to call Sterling names? He could have introduced himself and asked for an interview.
     
  2. spaceman

    spaceman Active Member

    That's some good stuff right they're.
     
  3. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Oh boy am I going to get killed for this...I loved Simmons' book.

    Yes, I know there were mistakes. I'm not going to gloss over them or make excuses for him.

    However, it was entertaining and interesting. What really impressed me was his passion. For reasons both good and bad, a lot of people in this business have lost it. That's Simmons biggest drawing card. People who like him are attracted to that.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Just don't take anything pre 1980 as accurate.
     
  5. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Boom,

    I'd read your critiques before I read his book; I definitely kept them in mind.
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Elliotte, I respect your opinion to the max. To me, Simmons is lima beans. I can't eat it. That's personal taste, and therefore has no argumentative merit. I acknowledge that technically he's a good writer. But in all honesty, passion is about the last quality I think matters in what is supposed to be a history book -- or more accurately -- a summing up of something as large as the NBA. Loving something (gosh, Bill does) is not the same as understanding, or communicating that understanding to others.
     
  7. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    It's easy to have passion for something when you don't have to be submerged in it on a daily basis.

    Put Simmons on a beat and check back and see how much 'passion' he has.
     
  8. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Not sure this is the right place for this, but Olberman's father died this week.

    As polarizing as both Simmons and Olberman can be, and as much as they may dislike one another, I find it interesting that they have one specific thing in common: their fathers played a very important role in their lives by introducing them to sports and encouraging them in their passions.

    http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/theodore_c_olbermann_1929-2010.html
     
  9. CitizenTino

    CitizenTino Active Member

    That was what I was getting at.

    Sterling is, by many accounts, a scumbag. Simmons' criticisms of him through the years have been well founded. But here, he had a chance to go face-to-face with him and instead of doing it, he ducks him and makes a joke about it. If you're going to rip somebody (repeatedly, no less), you've got to be willing to face them at some point.

    Quite frankly, given Simmons' connections and the fact he's been a Clippers season ticket holder for about five or six years now, I'm somewhat stunned he has managed to avoid Sterling for this long.
     
  10. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Michael, how can anything you say about Simmons not be taken with a grain of salt considering your history. I don't necessarily disagree with you and normally agree with you but how personal is it?
     
  11. tmr

    tmr Member

    Fantastic story/obit. I can't believe Olbermann has the same virtual space as the goofballs on MLBlogs. He should have a more official, respectful home, if he's going to write for that site. It would be like Bernie Lincicome on ChicagoNow.
     
  12. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    All I know is that KO's broad views of baseball more closely mirror mine than those of any other primary baseball media figure, and I
    love him for it.
     
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