Wow, when you think it can't get any stupider. Bush strikes again

21 · Jul 18, 2006

The Big Ragu said:

OK. I'll play devil's advocate here. I looked at it, and on the face of it, it looked kind of creepy. She was definitely surprised. At the least, it's just goofy and not the image I want the POTUS presenting. He has looked like Alfred E. Newman way too many times over the last few days.

But I have no idea what their relationship is or how comfortable they are with each other. The "sexual harrasment" comments are really jumping to conclusions. The surprise could have just been being surprised that someone came up from behind her and touched her neck. Someone you know well might do that, and if it catches you by surprise, you are going to jump and make a face. And at the end of the video clip, there is a hint of a smile from her. The LA Times mention of it said she smiled, too. I'd much rather hear that *she* was creeped out than go by people's speculation here because it looked kind of creepy.
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Sorry, but the behind-the-back surprise shoulder rub is just an excruciating invasion of space....it's a sexist and patronizing power move.

That, and the arm-around-the-back-too-far-so-the-hand-lands-under-the-breast move are grounds for justifiable homicide, in my legal opinion.

The Big Ragu · Jul 18, 2006

21 said:

The Big Ragu said:

OK. I'll play devil's advocate here. I looked at it, and on the face of it, it looked kind of creepy. She was definitely surprised. At the least, it's just goofy and not the image I want the POTUS presenting. He has looked like Alfred E. Newman way too many times over the last few days.

But I have no idea what their relationship is or how comfortable they are with each other. The "sexual harrasment" comments are really jumping to conclusions. The surprise could have just been being surprised that someone came up from behind her and touched her neck. Someone you know well might do that, and if it catches you by surprise, you are going to jump and make a face. And at the end of the video clip, there is a hint of a smile from her. The LA Times mention of it said she smiled, too. I'd much rather hear that *she* was creeped out than go by people's speculation here because it looked kind of creepy.
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Sorry, but the behind-the-back surprise shoulder rub is just an excruciating invasion of space....it's a sexist and patronizing power move.

That, and the arm-around-the-back-too-far-so-the-hand-lands-under-the-breast move are grounds for justifiable homicide, in my legal opinion.
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21, Could be. Or what if a half hour earlier, she had come up from behind him and poked him in the sides, surprising the shit out of him? I mean, what if that is the relationship they have? Even if it does seem very unlikely, you never know. Don't you want context before deciding that he groped her against her wishes? About the worst I can say right now is that our president looks like an impetuous 3-year-old in video that seems to be appearing every few hours. It very well may have been the "sexist and patronizing power move." I know it's more likely. But I'd still rather have more context before calling the President a serial mollester.

dixiehack · Jul 18, 2006

dog428 said:

Is there any way we can tie this jackass to his desk and never, ever let him leave the country again? I hate to say it, but I'd rather we send Dick on these little foreign meet-and-greets.

Been quite a week over there for Fredo. First, the whole chewing-food-cussing thing, then Putin punked him at the presser and now he's feeling up foreign leaders.

Apparently, one of the handlers dropped the ball and forgot to give Fredo the list of shit he shouldn't do. Because I'm pretty sure that No. 1 would've been NO UNNECESSARY TOUCHING OF OTHER LEADERS. Â

Ah well, what the hell. At least the rest of the world has gotten a good glimpse of the shit we've dealt with for the past six years.
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America hasn't had such poor representation in Europe since Clark Griswold won a free trip on Pig in a Poke.

da man · Jul 18, 2006

21 said:

The Big Ragu said:

OK. I'll play devil's advocate here. I looked at it, and on the face of it, it looked kind of creepy. She was definitely surprised. At the least, it's just goofy and not the image I want the POTUS presenting. He has looked like Alfred E. Newman way too many times over the last few days.

But I have no idea what their relationship is or how comfortable they are with each other. The "sexual harrasment" comments are really jumping to conclusions. The surprise could have just been being surprised that someone came up from behind her and touched her neck. Someone you know well might do that, and if it catches you by surprise, you are going to jump and make a face. And at the end of the video clip, there is a hint of a smile from her. The LA Times mention of it said she smiled, too. I'd much rather hear that *she* was creeped out than go by people's speculation here because it looked kind of creepy.
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Sorry, but the behind-the-back surprise shoulder rub is just an excruciating invasion of space....it's a sexist and patronizing power move.

That, and the arm-around-the-back-too-far-so-the-hand-lands-under-the-breast move are grounds for justifiable homicide, in my legal opinion.
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Ummmm.... If 21 asks, I'm not here.

Ace · Jul 18, 2006

21,

Is this move appropriate for a world leader?

Columbo · Jul 18, 2006

And remember the last time he was around representatives of so many countries....

Fenian_Bastard · Jul 18, 2006

Go back and find the clip from when he was a candidate, and he was on Letterman and, when a young PA came out during a break, Fredo used the tail of her blazer to wipe his glasses. (This is reputed to be the moment when Letterman turned angry on him.) Same kind of thing. Entltled fratboy to whom nobody can say no. Never been held to account for 10 seconds in his life.
Plus, if he'd ever tried this with Maggie Thatcher, she'd have broken his jaw.

The Big Ragu · Jul 18, 2006

Fenian_Bastard said:

Plus, if he'd ever tried this with Maggie Thatcher, she'd have broken his jaw.
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OK. Devil's advocate is over. That made me laugh.

zeke12 · Jul 18, 2006

The Big Ragu said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

Plus, if he'd ever tried this with Maggie Thatcher, she'd have broken his jaw.
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OK. Devil's advocate is over. That made me laugh.
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With her dick.

poindexter · Jul 18, 2006

This doesn't come close to the top Bush boners of the year, like when he approached the worker in a wheelchair:

"You look mighty comfortable."

Or telling the German reporter (what is it with him and the Germans?) that the highlight of his presidency was "when I caught a 7.5 pound perch in my lake."

buckweaver · Jul 18, 2006

poindexter said:

This doesn't come close to the top Bush boners of the year, like when he approached the worker in a wheelchair:

"You look mighty comfortable."

Or telling the German reporter (what is it with him and the Germans?) that the highlight of his presidency was "when I caught a 7.5 pound perch in my lake."
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For a man that just turned 60 years old, and has lived a life of privilege for well, six decades now, there seem to be way too many things that are just now occurring to him (and many others that haven't occurred to him at all yet.)

I would say you can't live in your own fucking bubble world all your life, but Bush is proving me wrong.

Intellectual curiosity -- get some. Fuck.

Fenian_Bastard · Jul 18, 2006

Not being a fisherperson, is it permissable to call bullshit on that perch story?
Do they get that big regularly?

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