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Wrestling redundancy

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Beef03, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    As a Daniels mark, yeah, I am frustrated with his push. He jobbed to Low-Ki in 12 minutes back in April. I understand the need to re-introduce Low-Ki to the TNA and National audiences, but Daniels was made to look like Barry Horowitz. No one thought he or Styles (TNA's version of ECW RVD) had a shot to beat Joe, and that's where TNA's bookers have to improve. Supposedly, Styles and Daniels are main eventers. When they wrestle, there should be the thought that they can beat a Joe or a Christian or a Jarrett or an AMW, etc...etc...

    If Christian loses the title--which, I don't believe he should. There's one man in TNA that deserves the belt. His name is Samoa Joe and he should be the wrestler that beats Christian for the strap--he's fucked to no end. He falls to the upper midcard that really doesn't threaten Double J. The Good Captain will be in the Abyss, Monty Brown, Raven, Ron Killings grouping of talented wrestlers held back by WCW circa 2001.
     
  2. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    I'd like to see Joe beat a heel for the title, because he may be a natural heel himself, but the fans clearly want to cheer him. Joe's gonna kill you! is their most enduring wrestler-specific chant right now, and the one circumstance I would welcome a Jarrett title win Sunday is if that means he gets dropped by a Musclebuster in short order to lose it.

    Watching the clips from their show at the old ECW Arena on this week's Impact makes me realize that they have a better handle on how to do a ECW-esque show better than the organization that holds its trademark. They need to start taping shows outside of Orlando (the fans are too familiar down there), and South Philly would be as good a place as any to start.
     
  3. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    If TNA booked Jarrett to win the strap only to lose it shortly thereafter to Joe, it'd be huge. It'd be Paul Heyman-esque. However, I don't think TNA's booking committee is that smart.

    I don't blame Heyman and Dreamer and the ECW wrestlers for the terrible ECW on Sci-Fi show. I blame Vince, Kevin Dunn and the rest of the WWE writing/creative team. They wrote and produced their version of ECW and it failed miserably. It was XFL-ish. For the revived ECW to survive, they need to leave the writing to Heyman and run shows in smaller, intimate venues. However, Vince will have to come to that realization on his own. Until he does...
     
  4. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    HB: True, ECW on SciFi has about as much to do with Paul Heyman as (favorite band with crappy new lead singer) has to do with (better original singer). But Heyman also has to understand (and I'm sure he does) that anything WWE puts out is going to be sanitized. It would make far more sense for them to deliberately go low-rent on production values and tape at small arenas to give it the ECW feel, but Vince insists on not adding another handful of taping dates to the schedule. But the July 4 TV show at whatever the ECW Arena is called (New Alhema, somehting like that) should, in a perfect world, convince Vince how important it is to have the right surroundings for the product.
     
  5. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Isn't Umaga one of the guys (Jamal) from 3-minute warning? :(

    Armando Alejandro Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada is pretty damn funny when he's not on WWE. He's been on OVW (WWE's AAA farm system, if you will) the past few weeks and he's running for dictator of "Los Kentuckos". He's fuckhing hilarious on OVW..I just wish Vince would let him use that character on RAW.
     
  6. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    Yes, Umaga is the member of Three Minute Warning that was a good wrestler but a jerk backstage. Rosie was the opposite -- good guy in the back, weaker of the two as far as working goes. He got released days before Jamal/Umaga made his return.

    I had heard that this Estrada character was pretty funny (his name is something like Osama Fidel Estrada in OVW, right?). But then I also heard that the Heartbreakers were this super awesome gay tag team and they weren't nuttin in WWE as the Heart Throbs.

    I'd like to have seen some OVW back in its golden age a few years ago, when they had Lesnar, Cena, Batista, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas and Randy Orton, among others.
     
  7. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    He's still Armando Alejandro Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada on OVW. But I didn't watch it when he first came on to the scene in Louisville, so he may have been Osama Fidel Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada then.
     
  8. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Are you ready?

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  9. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    For Tripod's placeholder image? Sure.

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Tripod doesn't allow crosslinking of its hosted images. Don't use it. Don't post from it.
     
  10. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Hope that works 2mc.
     
  11. JRoyal

    JRoyal Well-Known Member

    Did anyone else think the zombie on ECW sounded a little like the Great Khali?

    It's gotta be hard to do ECW in one hour. They need to pick two, three matches tops for the show, then give a few guys mic time. Hell, I'd love to see them build a good feud and just give them a 45-minute match on the show, with a couple of interviews before it. Do like the old show used to. Let the wrestlers wrestle and the brawlers brawl. Bring in some young guys to build up, maybe raid TNA a little if they need to. But they need to drop the "Invading Raw" crap ASAP. The show won't take off unless it can make a name for itself. Od it like Raw and Smackdown, maybe with some big cross-promotion matches at the bigger PPVs, but that's it.

    Of course, then how would ECW get on a PPV? Right now it's get on a Raw or Smackdown show of wait for one of the big four (Wrestlemania, SummerSlam, Royal Rumble, and Survivor Series).

    And I like DX being back, even if it is just cashing in on an old trick (Tell me you didn't chuckle at HHH's line about thwe guy who got Stephanie pregnant being hung down to his knee). Smackdown has a hell of a lot more problems than Raw right now, but at least Mr. kennedy is back. (Misterrrrrrrrrrrr Kenn-e-dyyyyy...





    KENNEDY)

    And the X Division is the only thing that makes TNA worth watching for me right now. That and Christian.
     
  12. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Meltzer wrote that the plan for ECW is to have four PPVs a year: November To Remember, Barely Legal, (Probably) One Night Stand and a PPV to be named. That's a very smart idea, because it plays to one of Heyman's strenghts: Long-term booking. Raven-Dreamer, anyone? Taz-Sabu?
     
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