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WTH is happening in Pittsburgh?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Inky_Wretch, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. McNuggetsMan

    McNuggetsMan Active Member

    Yeah until PornHub completely blew up that model. Listen to the podcast the Butterfly Effect if you want to understand what has happened to the porn industry in the last five years.
     
  2. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Maybe I can invent PornHub for news and become the next Bezos.
     
  3. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    PornHub blew up the model but at least there was a model to blow up. Newspapers gave away the store from the get go with free content.
     
  4. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    The porn industry... are these actors being asked to work for free “for the experience” or unlivable wages like in our business?
     
  5. McNuggetsMan

    McNuggetsMan Active Member

    I don't know. No one seems willing to pay money to watch me fuck so I have no idea what the market wages are.

    I'd be willing to bet there are more people at the Wall Street Journal/NY Times/Washington Post making solid middle class to upper middle class wages than there are porn stars making those same wages. And the complaints from porn stars about how much the bottom has fallen out mirrors a lot of the complaints here.

    I'd also say that Chaturbate/amateur porn has had a similar affect on professional porn actors that buzzfeed, bloggers, etc have had on the professional news media.

    (and I am not trying to make an argument that porn star and media member provide the same value to society. I am only making these comparisons because the "porn figured it out why can't newspapers" argument is total bullshit. Both have been destroyed by the digital transformation of the economy. The revenue models in both were completely upended)
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    For the exposure.
     
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  7. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Makes sense that a quote gets taken out of content on a journalism board. I said Porn figured out a model to generate revenue through pay walls and subscription fees from the beginning while newspapers expected ad revenues to just magically appear on websites where the content was being given away for free. Nowhere did I say "why cant newspapers?" It's too damn late for them regardless.
     
  8. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Block boys at it again. Cuts more print days in Toledo. And Allan Block gives us this "Oh my God ... he said that?!" quote to file under: Rich people with no idea how the peasants live

    The Blade accelerates push into e-delivery

    “On the days we don’t print, if you own one of the modern printers you can print a very good example of the printed paper. For $150, you can buy a printer and you can print a beautiful print version. You can still have your printed paper,” Mr. Block said.
     
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  9. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    This quote from Block is equally rich:

    “At the end of the day, I don’t apologize for killing a day of print where there isn’t enough advertising revenue to pay for it anymore. I didn’t cause the demise of print. It’s a fact of the business environment we now face,” he said.

    Like the e-edition won't have any ads in it ...

    Be honest and admit that the savings is in not having to use newsprint, ink, the printing press workers and delivery drivers.
     
  10. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Why wouldn't it be?
     
  11. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    Here's what Allan Block should say:

    "It kills me that you old, sentimental, print-reading complainers are the only thing that keeps our company afloat. And that you're the only reliable audience advertisers can reach through our company. But despite that, I'm going to spit in your face by taking away one more day of the product you're paying for, and you prefer: the print edition of the newspaper.

    "I'm going to keep taking away days of print publication until one of three things happen: 1. you give in and by a tablet to read the e-edition; 2. our company goes bankrupt because nobody reads the e-edition; or 3. the last remaining print subscribers die off, and it doesn't matter anyway.

    "Have a great day!"
     
  12. Fredrick

    Fredrick Well-Known Member

    Great post. Newspapers have never been honest. This is exactly why publishers and general managers embraced the free internet. Anything to shrink the cost of newsprint and ink and the pressmen and women. And the headache of delivery. This should never have happened. Newspapers could have continued to make money off the boomers til death they do part. These brave new world publishers were such babies, selling off to the hedge funders and horrible chains just to maker sure they made millions upon abandoning (selling) their outlets off. Somebody should do a book on newspaper buildings/property before and after. Show the majestic buildings a newspaper was once housed in and show their current locale, lol.
     
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