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Yahoo levels Miami

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Versatile, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. baddecision

    baddecision Active Member

    1HP grad, it's cute that you think there are links to journalism that was done at small newspapers in the 1990s.

    Sorry, no PM either. Sharing deets reveals identities, and I'm not showing you mine just as I don't care to know all of yours.

    The project didn't win a Pulitzer, that's for sure, but it was a fine example of multi-faceted, teamwork journalism -- especially for a sub-40K chain daily -- and it helped me eventually land a job at a place that has won multiple Pulitzers (though my only contribution to those projects was eating lunch in the same cafeteria as the winning reporters).

    MileHigh, the question truly is: "why didn't they?" We all know the answer, and for a lifer like me, it's sad to the point of crushing. It kinda crystallizes how far our business/profession/calling has fallen, that a once-great newspaper had months and months to notice this was happening yet failed/refused.
     
  2. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    Deadspin's Tommy Craig had an, um, interesting exchange with Charles Robinson:

    http://deadspin.com/5831874/an-angry-exchange-about-scandal-with-charles-robinson-yahoos-earnest-ncaa-crusader
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I understand that Craig and Deadspin's schtick is anti-establishment. And there is definitely a lot of that in me, too. I absolutely love the 1980s Miami teams. (Sorry, Boom.)

    What bothers me about letting all this go on is kind of like the pro-steroids argument. What about the programs that are run cleanly? Or relatively so. Why should Boston College have to make a Hobson's Choice: Break the rules or fail?
     
  4. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    But that sort of misses the point. The teams that run their program "cleanly" are cheating the rules, but they are cheating the kids by continuing to enforce a labor cartel that suppresses wages in order to increase the profits available for coaches, athletic directors, and athletes participating in non-revenue producing sports.
     
  5. Brian Cook

    Brian Cook Member

    That would be more convincing if Wetzel hadn't just bombed the NCAA. Robinson's just doing his job and if Craggs still thinks its impact is like rounding up guys with a joint on them I think he's wrong -- the zeitgeist is moving towards NCAA reform because of Yahoo's work.
     
  6. Hot and Rickety

    Hot and Rickety Active Member

    "I understand that Craig and Deadspin's schtick is anti-establishment."

    Yeah, I get that too, seeing as how Craggs takes a shot at newspaper writers in just about every column he pens. Often it just comes as a weird non-sequitor that has absolutely nothing to do with his column topic.

    It's like he has an irrational hatred of newspaper sportswriters. I guess it now translates to online-only writers.

    Even weirder is the fact that he apparently was oh-so-close to joining the establishment with his Grantland flirtation.
     
  7. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    He made regular appearances in Play, the NYT's sports magazine, so it wouldn't have been new ground for him. Craggs is a fantastic writer and a free thinker, but I think he's becoming a bit gimmicky lately. He was particularly off-base in this case. If investigative reporters weren't continually bombarding the NCAA with proof that the system is broken, I firmly believe the NCAA would go on believing the system wasn't broken.
     
  8. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    I did a Google image search for Nevin Shapiro and saw this from Bleacher Report. Made me kind of chuckle (notice the date):

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/446988-nevin-shapiro-ponzi-scheme-is-there-a-new-scandal-brewing-at-the-u
     
  9. armageddon

    armageddon Active Member

    Sorry, but I'm surprised you think Dan didn't know about all the crap going down.
     
  10. 1HPGrad

    1HPGrad Member

    Arm, when did you work with Tard? Tard doesn't sit on news. Worked with him long enough to know that. Watched him get it, hand off to beat reporters, point them in the right direction and then react to it. He might think the rules are stupid, which they are, and go after policy-makers rather than breakers, but he doesn't sit on stuff.

    And bad....you play cornerback? Dude, you backpedaled like Prime Time. Knew you would. Guess we'll just have to take your word that your project was worthy of being mentioned in a thread devoted to Yahoo's dominance. Hell, send it to 1HP. Clearly they could use you.
     
  11. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

  12. jaredk

    jaredk Member

    Why's he not weighed in on this? I ask not knowing his schedule. Maybe he writes once a month between tv and radio.
     
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