Yankee Fans: Morons

When I think of "great accumulators of stats" I think of guys like Harold Baines and Fred McGriff. Murray and Winfield were definitely better than those guys.

 

I should've had Murray and Winfield switched on that list. One of the points of that list is to show there really haven't been any players of Jeter's caliber that never won an MVP. Kaline, Murray, and Winfield are deserved Hall of Famers but I can't really pick out a season where they should have been MVP.

Probably the best comparison to Jeter is Robbie Alomar. His best seasons measure up to Jeter's (Alomar should've been MVP in 2001) but his career totals fall short.

Jeter being overrated is a cliche, the guy has two fewer MVPs than freakin Juan Gonzalez.

 

Nice run for Murray but in none of those years did he have a case as #1.

1981: Rollie Fingers won, I can see moving him ahead of a closer but then again Rickey H had a better year
1982: Yount, a SS had more RBIs, Runs, batting average, and slg%. Murray had 3 more HRs, that's it.
1983: Murray was slightly better with the bat, but not enough to beat a gold glove shortstop who played every day
1984: Murray was 4th, Hernandez shouldn't have won but Mattingly, Ripken, and Winfield were better choices
1985: Murray was 5th, deservedly so as the four ahead of him (Mattingly, Brett, Henderson, and Boggs) all had better seasons


Again he's a deserving Hall of Famer never the best in any year of his career

 

You can't be serious.

 

There have been several that finished in the top 5 in MVP 5 straight years. Did you mean finishing in the top 5 without winning? David Ortiz is the only one I can think of.

 

Where's your list so we can compare?

 

Oh, I love the comedy of you thinking that anybody but you is looking bad here. You are verbally blowing the guy every time you type and apparently you don't even realize it.

 

This has to be performance art, right? You can't be this clueless.

The MVP is not a career achievement award. Your entire argument is built on a premise that is flat-out wrong.

 

If I am 'verbally blowing' him it's to counteract the bulls&#t about him being overrated. I've never seen a player of his caliber assailed as much as Jeter. He's a player who has had a great career statistically, won 5 titles, and stayed loyal to his team. I wasn't on this site at the time, but I must assume you also dumped on the careers of Gwynn, Ripken, Brett, etc.

 

I realize what the MVP is for. But do you notice, that none of those players I listed, except for maybe Kaline in 1955, could ever claim they were robbed of an MVP? Jeter is the only one on that list who *has* had MVP level season, three of them, and didn't win a single time. This destroys the argument that he is overrated.

 

The year he probably should have won it -- 2006 -- Morneau had slightly better numbers. He finished sixth in 1999 and third in 2009. He is one of the most overrated players today -- and that's coming from a Yankees fan.

 

Does anyone here think that Jeter will not be the fifth player with his own monument?