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Darwin's Doubt

deck Whitman said:
Still not grasping where you get this. At all. Particularly the "opulence of the homes they can afford" bit.

My father was a shelf stocker at Wal-Mart the last decade-plus of his life. I am married to an elementary school teacher. I covered high school sports, almost exclusively, for six years, starting at a robust $10/hour.

All of that said, in the way of background and context: Sorry, but when someone talks about the "average joe on the street" who doesn't understand Darwin, "doctor" doesn't spring to mind. If that marks me as some sort of opulence-craving elitist, then I guess that's what I am.

I was calling you out for being pretentious. For judging others' intelligence by the identifiable roles they present to you merely through the jobs they hold today. Are you saying they cannot hold a philosophical or political discussion with you merely because they are making you a burrito? Are they incapable of deep thoughts about evolution vs. creation? Do they have to have advanced degrees to gain entry to those conversations?

What forking cretins they are. They probably live in caves!
 
Riptide said:
Are you saying they cannot hold a philosophical or political discussion with you merely because they are making you a burrito?

I thought we were talking about science?
 
Well, my work is done.

With the help of Riptide, deck has fallen into the trap I have set, and he has now been exposed as pretentious a-hole, for all the world to see.
 
deck Whitman said:
Riptide said:
Are you saying they cannot hold a philosophical or political discussion with you merely because they are making you a burrito?

I thought we were talking about science?

Science, too. You get my point.
 
da man said:
LongTimeListener said:
YankeeFan said:
I think that the author thought that it was worth exploring. I think that he's writing for a mass audience. And, rather than trying to discredit Darwin, he's trying to show that Intelligent Design and Evolution are not incompatible.

Now, if you want to discredit or Intelligent Design, that's fine. But falling back on Darwin alone won't do it.

The author is trying to exploit God and Jesus, having seen the way millions upon millions of people line up at Chick-fil-A or buy Tebow jerseys for that one reason. (I no has Tebow jersey. I worship only the wing-T Tebow.) It is a cynical but extraordinarily effective use of religion, and if there isn't a sucker born every minute, there's certainly one born (or born again) often enough to make it worthwhile to put out a Jesus-related product.

There is no need to "discredit" Intelligent Design. It has no credit.

The reason millions of people line up at Chick-fil-A is because their sandwiches are forking awesome.

Just sayin'.

It's the pickle.
 
Riptide said:
deck Whitman said:
Riptide said:
deck Whitman said:
Riptide said:
Are you saying they cannot hold a philosophical or political discussion with you merely because they are making you a burrito?

I thought we were talking about science?

Science, too. You get my point.

I really don't.

But you're a lawyer, right? All lawyers are smart!

I honestly don't follow. The reason people don't grasp evolutionary biology isn't because they aren't smart. It's because they haven't made any kind of real study of it, formal or informal.
 
Armchair_QB said:
da man said:
LongTimeListener said:
YankeeFan said:
I think that the author thought that it was worth exploring. I think that he's writing for a mass audience. And, rather than trying to discredit Darwin, he's trying to show that Intelligent Design and Evolution are not incompatible.

Now, if you want to discredit or Intelligent Design, that's fine. But falling back on Darwin alone won't do it.

The author is trying to exploit God and Jesus, having seen the way millions upon millions of people line up at Chick-fil-A or buy Tebow jerseys for that one reason. (I no has Tebow jersey. I worship only the wing-T Tebow.) It is a cynical but extraordinarily effective use of religion, and if there isn't a sucker born every minute, there's certainly one born (or born again) often enough to make it worthwhile to put out a Jesus-related product.

There is no need to "discredit" Intelligent Design. It has no credit.

The reason millions of people line up at Chick-fil-A is because their sandwiches are forking awesome.

Just sayin'.

It's the pickle.
that's what she said
 
deck Whitman said:
I honestly don't follow. The reason people don't grasp evolutionary biology isn't because they aren't smart. It's because they haven't made any kind of real study of it, formal or informal.

This is a true statement.

Do books like this make the topic interesting and approachable to the average person, or does it exploit them? Or maybe it's somewhere in the middle.
 

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