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I thought the Bartman doc was going to be part of 30 for 30

Steak Snabler said:
Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:
Did they show the clip of Dan Patrick and ESPN being fooled by a Steve Bartman impersonator during a live Sportscenter?

Yep, with the audio about Howard Stern.

I thought it was interesting hearing Patrick talk about that moment on his show. I wish I could remember exactly what he said about it.
 
Shaggy said:
And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.
I watched a repeat of it last night and I found myself getting in a rage at that guy (the one who sauntered down there and went all bad-ass). Bartman didn't make a mistake. He reacted in a situation in which he had maybe a second or two to get his mind together. That in retrospect his reaction might have been costly doesn't make it mistaken. But the douchebag they kept talking to (in the doc), he had plenty of time to get his mind around the situation. He had plenty of time to answer the question, "Is going down there and harassing this guy something I should do?" And his answer, arrived at in the comfort of knowing that he had plenty of backup, was "Yes!" There's your mistake.

If anybody should be ashamed at what happened, it's Mr. Badass.
 
doctorquant said:
Shaggy said:
And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.
I watched a repeat of it last night and I found myself getting in a rage at that guy (the one who sauntered down there and went all bad-ass). Bartman didn't make a mistake. He reacted in a situation in which he had maybe a second or two to get his mind together. That in retrospect his reaction might have been costly doesn't make it mistaken. But the douchebag they kept talking to (in the doc), he had plenty of time to get his mind around the situation. He had plenty of time to answer the question, "Is going down there and harassing this guy something I should do?" And his answer, arrived at in the comfort of knowing that he had plenty of backup, was "Yes!" There's your mistake.

If anybody should be ashamed at what happend, it's Mr. Badass.


+1 and then some...
I watched it last night and was horrified at the behavior of fans, including the schmuck who was recording scenes.
There were about three people in the doc - not named Steve Bartman - who came out of that looking normal. The rest were a forking embarrassment that includes Mike Wilburn and Scott Turow ...
It's a game. A game whose outcome has no direct effect on your life and yet that's the behavior and attitude toward a guy who did nothing wrong?
For fork's sake - what is wrong with people?
 
doctorquant said:
Shaggy said:
And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.
I watched a repeat of it last night and I found myself getting in a rage at that guy (the one who sauntered down there and went all bad-ass). Bartman didn't make a mistake. He reacted in a situation in which he had maybe a second or two to get his mind together. That in retrospect his reaction might have been costly doesn't make it mistaken. But the douchebag they kept talking to (in the doc), he had plenty of time to get his mind around the situation. He had plenty of time to answer the question, "Is going down there and harassing this guy something I should do?" And his answer, arrived at in the comfort of knowing that he had plenty of backup, was "Yes!" There's your mistake.

If anybody should be ashamed at what happened, it's Mr. Badass.

The firefighter/bar owner seemed like a first class douche.
 
Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:
doctorquant said:
Shaggy said:
And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.
I watched a repeat of it last night and I found myself getting in a rage at that guy (the one who sauntered down there and went all bad-ass). Bartman didn't make a mistake. He reacted in a situation in which he had maybe a second or two to get his mind together. That in retrospect his reaction might have been costly doesn't make it mistaken. But the douchebag they kept talking to (in the doc), he had plenty of time to get his mind around the situation. He had plenty of time to answer the question, "Is going down there and harassing this guy something I should do?" And his answer, arrived at in the comfort of knowing that he had plenty of backup, was "Yes!" There's your mistake.

If anybody should be ashamed at what happend, it's Mr. Badass.


+1 and then some...
I watched it last night and was horrified at the behavior of fans, including the schmuck who was recording scenes.
There were about three people in the doc - not named Steve Bartman - who came out of that looking normal. The rest were a forking embarrassment that includes Mike Wilburn and Scott Turow ...
It's a game. A game whose outcome has no direct effect on your life and yet that's the behavior and attitude toward a guy who did nothing wrong?
For fork's sake - what is wrong with people?

I can only think of the security guard, although the redheaded lady sitting near him didn't come off too bad, if I remember correctly. Who else seemed normal to you?

And the dude who was grinning about coming after him (Jim something?) came off worse than any of them. What an incredible brick.
 
Big Circus said:
And the dude who was grinning about coming after him (Jim something?) came off worse than any of them. What an incredible brick.
I did a bit of googling on him, and he was interviewed recently by the local Fox affiliate. He said he would, if he could, apologize to Bartman for what he did and what's happened to Bartman. So I'll give him that ... I suspect he said those same things during the filming of the documentary, but they wound up not making the cut. He also said, though, that he'd still ask Bartman, "What were you thinking?" So his brick-o-meter rating is still way on the high side in my book.
 
Big Circus said:
Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:
doctorquant said:
Shaggy said:
And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.
I watched a repeat of it last night and I found myself getting in a rage at that guy (the one who sauntered down there and went all bad-ass). Bartman didn't make a mistake. He reacted in a situation in which he had maybe a second or two to get his mind together. That in retrospect his reaction might have been costly doesn't make it mistaken. But the douchebag they kept talking to (in the doc), he had plenty of time to get his mind around the situation. He had plenty of time to answer the question, "Is going down there and harassing this guy something I should do?" And his answer, arrived at in the comfort of knowing that he had plenty of backup, was "Yes!" There's your mistake.

If anybody should be ashamed at what happend, it's Mr. Badass.


+1 and then some...
I watched it last night and was horrified at the behavior of fans, including the schmuck who was recording scenes.
There were about three people in the doc - not named Steve Bartman - who came out of that looking normal. The rest were a forking embarrassment that includes Mike Wilburn and Scott Turow ...
It's a game. A game whose outcome has no direct effect on your life and yet that's the behavior and attitude toward a guy who did nothing wrong?
For fork's sake - what is wrong with people?

I can only think of the security guard, although the redheaded lady sitting near him didn't come off too bad, if I remember correctly. Who else seemed normal to you?

And the dude who was grinning about coming after him (Jim something?) came off worse than any of them. What an incredible brick.

Steve Lyons and Eric Karros. That's about it.
 
Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:
Big Circus said:
I can only think of the security guard, although the redheaded lady sitting near him didn't come off too bad, if I remember correctly. Who else seemed normal to you?

And the dude who was grinning about coming after him (Jim something?) came off worse than any of them. What an incredible brick.

Steve Lyons and Eric Karros. That's about it.

Oh, I hadn't even considered the players, aside from Alou, who seems like a huge asshole. Lyons and Karros did seem relatively normal.
 
doctorquant said:
Big Circus said:
And the dude who was grinning about coming after him (Jim something?) came off worse than any of them. What an incredible brick.
I did a bit of googling on him, and he was interviewed recently by the local Fox affiliate. He said he would, if he could, apologize to Bartman for what he did and what's happened to Bartman. So I'll give him that ... I suspect he said those same things during the filming of the documentary, but they wound up not making the cut. He also said, though, that he'd still ask Bartman, "What were you thinking?" So his brick-o-meter rating is still way on the high side in my book.

When was the interview? If it came after the original documentary aired, it sounds like damage control to me. He immediately became public enemy No. 1 after the first showing, so he probably wanted to change his tune a bit.
 
Just saw this last night and enjoyed it -- but who the heck videos himself all during a playoff game except some extreme narcissist?
 
finishthehat said:
Just saw this last night and enjoyed it -- but who the heck videos himself all during a playoff game except some extreme narcissist?

Didn't they say that guy was a filmmaker? Maybe he was planning on a project of his own.

My one beef with his segments was that Gibney waited a really long time to ID him. I thought he might have been Wayne Drehs and just gotten roughed up a bit.
 

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