Joe Cowley is an idiot

[Cousin Jeffrey]

After listening to the M&MD interview, didn't he have Ortiz higher than Jeter on his ballot? I think the ballot mentioned in this thread was a guess.

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

Just because a man walks seven batters in a no-hitter does not make him an idiot.

I loved his dad on Newhart

 

[Ashy Larry]

CLASSIC!!!!! ;D

 

[bigapplewriter]

Here's the thing ... you guys can call me a fan boy all you want. I guess you missed the part where I said that Morneau was the right guy to win the award.

I have no allegiance to the Yankees, and I don't know Jeter. I thought he was a legitimate candidate, but I would have voted for Morneau. My problem with this moron was not that Jeter didn't win, but that he apparently didn't do any research or homework before voting.

In the WFAN interview, he kept saying that A-Rod was the hitter opponents feared on the Yankees, not Jeter. Then why did opponents keep intentionally walking the guy in front of A-Rod to pitch to him? He also said that Ortiz was much more clutch than Jeter, even though Jeter hit 100 points higher with RISP.

This clown also had AJ Pierzynski on his ballot, but not Joe Mauer. Give me a freakin' break.

He just did a bad job. He's an idiot. He should never be allowed to vote again.

 

[scribebaseball]

The Pierzynski-Mauer thing is pretty indefensible.

I don't think everyone has to vote in lockstep, but this seems very much like a "Look at me!" ballot.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Next on SportsJournalists.com: stlouiswriter goes ballistic over the NL MVP selection of Ryan Howard.

Anytime I see your picture I think it is one of my posts b/c I used to have that same pic.

Anyway, if Joe Cowley should be removed from voting, so should everyone who voted for Morneau over Mauer or who left Mauer off their ballot, because Mauer is clearly more important and more valuable to the Twins than Morneau.

heck, Torii Hunter is more valuable and important to the Twins than Morneau.

 

[outofplace]

Next on SportsJournalists.com: stlouiswriter goes ballistic over the NL MVP selection of Ryan Howard.

Anytime I see your picture I think it is one of my posts b/c I used to have that same pic.

Anyway, if Joe Cowley should be removed from voting, so should everyone who voted for Morneau over Mauer or who left Mauer off their ballot, because Mauer is clearly more important and more valuable to the Twins than Morneau.

heck, Torii Hunter is more valuable and important to the Twins than Morneau.

Actually, no, Torii Hunter was not as valuable to the Twins this year as Morneau. I can see the argument for Mauer or Santana, but Morneau was the key to their offense.

 

[Bruhman]

some guys don't vote for pitchers for MVP. are they idiots?

if you give more weight to the most Valuable player, opposed to the most Outstanding player, and put four or five players ahead of the $200 million-Yankees' top player, are you an idiot.

i say no in both instances. we can' even agree whether pitchers or dh's should be eligible, let alone how to measure "value" vs. "production."

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Next on SportsJournalists.com: stlouiswriter goes ballistic over the NL MVP selection of Ryan Howard.

Anytime I see your picture I think it is one of my posts b/c I used to have that same pic.

Anyway, if Joe Cowley should be removed from voting, so should everyone who voted for Morneau over Mauer or who left Mauer off their ballot, because Mauer is clearly more important and more valuable to the Twins than Morneau.

heck, Torii Hunter is more valuable and important to the Twins than Morneau.

Actually, no, Torii Hunter was not as valuable to the Twins this year as Morneau. I can see the argument for Mauer or Santana, but Morneau was the key to their offense.

Torii Hunter hit 3 less HRs than Morneau, drove in 32 less runs, scored 7 less, stole 9 more bases, and won a Gold Glove while playing centerfield.

The team would fare much worse minus Hunter than it would minus Morneau. Proven last year when Hunter played 98 games and Minnesota did not finish first for the only time from 2002-2006.

 

[Columbo]

I heard the interview. It was pretty sad, actually.
And there weren't six more valuable players than Jeter in the AL this year. That's just silly.

five

 

[Columbo]

My complaint is merely that the AL Central is overrepresented on Joe's ballot. That's the division he sees most. That's not intellectually dishonest, just a human tendency which the makeup of the electorate is supposed to balance out. For sheer gall, nothing will top George King's leaving Pedro off his ballot in '99 on the grounds pitchers shouldn't be MVPs after having previously given a spot to David Wells.
Ortiz is an interesting case to me because in mid-August, I remember Tim Kurkjian saying that not only would Ortiz be MVP, it might be unanimous. Nothing changed in Ortiz's performance, but his team went down the tubes, so he became an also-ran.
There's a LIMIT to how valuable any one player can be to a team in any one season, and I think most of the arguments on MVP voting reflect the fact no one knows exactly what the limit is.

I think that being surrounded by $180 million in teammates hurts your "value".

Period.

 

[Columbo]

Pujols was jobbed more... by the forking East coast bias.

So... shut the fork up.

Oh... and Happy Thanksgiving.