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Multiple dead at Fort Hood after shootings

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Ace said:
What I thought was interesting -- other than the shooter's name and motivation -- is the civilian cop who shot him after being shot herself.

So here you have an Army base filled with people and weapons the person who stops the shooter is a female civilian police officer who responded from off the base and shot him after being wounded herself.

She may have saved a lot of lives.

I was listening to an interview with a military officer yesterday and he mentioned that soldiers do not carry weapons while on post at domestic bases unless they are MPs. He said the only time you are armed is when you check weapons out for training.

I didn't realize that but it would explain why it was a cop who took the guy down.

It also pretty much kills Small Town Guy's argument.
 
zagoshe said:
Small Town Guy said:
zagoshe said:
Gee, It is really a surprise that a crackpot who lost his mind and shot up a military base is an Arab......

And I'm still waiting for some slobbering anti-gun whiner to start the "you see, if they didn't have guns on military bases then this wouldn't happen!!" routine. ::)

Doesn't it also lay waste to the slobbering pro-gun belief that if you just arm everyone - say, every college student - these kind of things would be prevented, either because the killers would be so afraid of trying it or someone would take him out in the early moments?

And considering how many lone wacko gunmen of the past 25 years have been "Arab" - compared to those who have been lonely white guys - yeah, it might be a bit surprising.

No it really doesn't. But thank you.

And as soon as I heard about it I said to my wife "I bet it is one of these America-hating muslim assholes" and sure enough, it was. I don't care where he was born - a lot of forking people are born here who don't deserve to be called real Americans.

Thankfully, Zag, you and your ilk aren't in charge of deciding who's a "real American."

Come to think of it, you and your crew aren't in charge of diddly-squat at the moment. Thankfully.
 
sportsguydave said:
Inky_Wretch said:
YankeeFan said:
Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBMpPb3w7Y3gD9BQ28F00

I wonder if that's as accurate as "the shooter is dead" reports.

Even if it isn't, that won't prevent some from running with it. Fits right in with their EVIL MOOSLIMS meme.

And nice to see that all those Great Americans who bashed Muslims six ways to Sunday after 9/11 had the desired effect.

Idiots.

What does that mean?

Are you justifying the shooting because some people "bashed" Muslims after 9/11?

That's both disgusting & false. Great efforts were made to not equate 9/11 with mainstream Islam.
 
I'd also like some evidence beyond the word of an aunt who is trying paint the guy in a positive light that he was harassed after 9-11
 
deskslave said:
zagoshe said:
Small Town Guy said:
zagoshe said:
Gee, It is really a surprise that a crackpot who lost his mind and shot up a military base is an Arab......

And I'm still waiting for some slobbering anti-gun whiner to start the "you see, if they didn't have guns on military bases then this wouldn't happen!!" routine. ::)

Doesn't it also lay waste to the slobbering pro-gun belief that if you just arm everyone - say, every college student - these kind of things would be prevented, either because the killers would be so afraid of trying it or someone would take him out in the early moments?

And considering how many lone wacko gunmen of the past 25 years have been "Arab" - compared to those who have been lonely white guys - yeah, it might be a bit surprising.

No it really doesn't. But thank you.

And as soon as I heard about it I said to my wife "I bet it is one of these America-hating muslim assholes" and sure enough, it was. I don't care where he was born - a lot of forking people are born here who don't deserve to be called real Americans.

Yeah, we should round 'em all up, eh? Just like all those America-hating white assholes we rounded up when a white ex-servicemember blew up a federal building and killed 168 people.

Or is that, well, you know?


I agree, we should have rounded them up, too.
 
Armchair_QB said:
I'd also like some evidence beyond the word of an aunt who is trying paint the guy in a positive light that he was harassed after 9-11

Well wait a minute, now, how can you be so blind.

He had dark skin and a Muslim name so of course he was harrassed and made fun of by evil people because, well, the liberals said so.
 
The Fort Hood shooter is a representative of all Muslims like Eric Rudolph is a representative of all Christians.
 
Some folks have a pretty bizarre picture of what an Army post is like. People aren't all running with their M-4s and having live-fire exercises on every other block. These bases are like a mix between a college campus and a small town -- a very safe small town. The hardcore training is done in remote parts of the post (if it's one of the large ones) or somewhere else entirely. Nobody is walking around armed to the teeth and foxholes aren't set up in front of every building.

It makes perfect sense that the soldiers were caught off guard and defenseless when this happened -- there's strong gate security at these posts to check who gets in. And they would obviously never expect one of their comrades to pull this shirt.
 
sportsguydave said:
zagoshe said:
Small Town Guy said:
zagoshe said:
Gee, It is really a surprise that a crackpot who lost his mind and shot up a military base is an Arab......

And I'm still waiting for some slobbering anti-gun whiner to start the "you see, if they didn't have guns on military bases then this wouldn't happen!!" routine. ::)

Doesn't it also lay waste to the slobbering pro-gun belief that if you just arm everyone - say, every college student - these kind of things would be prevented, either because the killers would be so afraid of trying it or someone would take him out in the early moments?

And considering how many lone wacko gunmen of the past 25 years have been "Arab" - compared to those who have been lonely white guys - yeah, it might be a bit surprising.

No it really doesn't. But thank you.

And as soon as I heard about it I said to my wife "I bet it is one of these America-hating muslim assholes" and sure enough, it was. I don't care where he was born - a lot of forking people are born here who don't deserve to be called real Americans.

Thankfully, Zag, you and your ilk aren't in charge of deciding who's a "real American."

Come to think of it, you and your crew aren't in charge of diddly-squat at the moment. Thankfully.

I'd love for you to explain to me who my "crew" is as I'm fairly certain that "my crew" has never been in charge.

You, however, are probably too stupid and too much of a Kool Aid drinker to understand and realize that even if you think "your crew" is in charge, they aren't any different from the so-called "opposite crew" you and others of your ilk put on stupid-looking styrofoam hats and run around the country every two years trying to defeat....
 
Of course , Michael Savage had a field day with this last night. He said if it were a white guy like Tim McVeigh, the media would be all over this, that the media is sweeping this under the rug because the guy is a Muslim, that Obama showed no leadership by not going off script in whatever speech he was making at the moment, that if he were an investigator, he'd want to know what Mosque the guy attended.
I hate it when people confuse racism for common sense.
 
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