NFL Week 2 thread

[BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo]

Which fan base should be the most disheartened at this point? My rankings.
1. Miami - they might be years away from having another QB as good at Tua (And Tua isn't even a top tier QB).
2. Jags - a couple of years ago, it looked like they would own the division for five or six years, now they seem ready to blow it up.
3. Bengals - not sure what their excuse is.

Teams like the Panthers, Browns, Giants and Titans won't have to look too hard to find a better QB, And they'll be bad enough to draft at the top.

3.) Mike Brown stumbling his way into an incredible young core and being his usual cheapskate self when it's time to extend those players

 

[da man]

Watched Manning telecast and while Eli rarely says anything, Belichick is delightfully plain speaking. "[Falcons] can't tackle, they're too light on front 7". His groans were so funny.

Belichick has been a great addition to the show.

 

[playthrough]

Belichick has been a great addition to the show.

Belichick got me back to the Manningcast. But I returned to the regular broadcast before Miles Teller showed up.

 

[Junkie]

I don't know if it's fair to say it was mostly Stefanski's fault. Baker admitted on the PMT podcast he was probably stubborn in not getting surgery that season. He did himself no favors with the way he carried himself in 2021. There were factors outside Baker's control that determined his fate (like anyone else), but he just wasn't very professional.

It was both parties' fault. It was his fourth year and the team needed to find out whether he was worth extending, and Baker needed to prove he was worth extending. Because he refused to sit and they refused to sit him, nobody found out. We're finding out now, of course.

 

[outofplace]

Not at all. the Steelers are a paragon of what an organization should be, and are enviable in nearly every way possible, but also proof that even the best ones will sell their souls to win. The Browns are no different; they just did it for a player who sucks, adding to a decades-long run of incompetence. At least Watson's contract did not prove to be a trendsetter. Sanity has followed in its wake.

The owners were never going to let that happen. They couldn't agree on the word "outlier" fast enough when news of that contract broke.

I get what you are saying, which is pretty close to what I've been saying for years. Every team has bad guys, including star players. To me, it's different when you don't just go out and get one when the whole world knows he is a dirtbag, you pretty much get down on your knees and beg him to be part of your franchise.

 

[outofplace]

They did. He didn't. He was at home with Covid-19, watching on TV with the rest of us.

I get that, but it was his team running his system.

 

[outofplace]

I don't know if it's fair to say it was mostly Stefanski's fault. Baker admitted on the PMT podcast he was probably stubborn in not getting surgery that season. He did himself no favors with the way he carried himself in 2021. There were factors outside Baker's control that determined his fate (like anyone else), but he just wasn't very professional.

His whole reckless style of play was the reason he was even in that situation. He tried to tackle a guy after an interception and went shoulder first. An interesting what if in Browns history is what happens if that injury doesn't occur. That play changed the whole trajectory of the franchise with the ripple effect it had (Baker plays mediocre the rest of the year and leads to pursuit of Watson).

There was a game against the Lions (in 2021 they were winless most of the season) where one of his throws sailed over a wide ass open Jarvis Landry and the safety picked it. He left the field early that game without acknowledging anyone (the Browns won the game), skipped his mandatory media session afterwards and was an ass to reporters the next day. That was probably the point where the Browns were done with him. Then came the Christmas Day 4 interception debacle against the Packers and the meltdown on Monday Night in Pittsburgh.

Credit to him for maturing if that's what's happened.

All of that is fair, but that is why you don't let players decide if they can play through an injury. Sure, they can't force a player to have surgery, but they could have told him to sit his ass down until he has it done.