Oral history of...

[bumpy mcgee]

Love BttF, but Dave Dameshek is right when he brings up the two main flaws of the first one. 1) At the end of the movie, Biff literally tries to rape Lorraine. It defies logic that the McFlys would then employ him as their butler type 20 years later. 2) Lorraine and George never say, "Hey isn't it weird that our son looks like that guy Calvin Klein who mysteriously disappeared from our lives on prom night?"

They could have worked around both of those things - For #1, have Biff be the bum on a bench when Marty flies back to 1985, so he's still a loser but not involved with the family. #2, just have Lorraine and George mention it in pashing and make a joke of it. "Oh, you never knew that's why your middle name is Calvin, Marty? It's because of that guy who helped your father and I get together. It's weird, you remind us of him..."

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Sure, the Chuck Berry version of Johnny B. Goode is good, but let me tell you about the guy he stole it from ...

 

[Slacker]

That's still super weird. It just feels like them trying too hard to show you how badly Biff has fallen, when you could do it in other ways.

Yeah, I guess so. But it did do an effective job of showing how the town bully was emasculated and turned into a complete suck-up chore boy. And, who knows, maybe the idea of updating Biff came late during filming, and that's the best thing they could come up with on the (mc)fly.

What are your alternate ideas?

 

[Scout]

Chaminade and Virginia

 

[Vombatus]

Chaminade and Virginia

The horror. The horror.

 

[BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo]

An oral history of oral histories.

Included as a bonus chapter in the coffee table book about coffee tables?

 

[garrow]

Love BttF, but Dave Dameshek is right when he brings up the two main flaws of the first one. 1) At the end of the movie, Biff literally tries to rape Lorraine. It defies logic that the McFlys would then employ him as their butler type 20 years later. 2) Lorraine and George never say, "Hey isn't it weird that our son looks like that guy Calvin Klein who mysteriously disappeared from our lives on prom night?"

They could have worked around both of those things - For #1, have Biff be the bum on a bench when Marty flies back to 1985, so he's still a loser but not involved with the family. #2, just have Lorraine and George mention it in pashing and make a joke of it. "Oh, you never knew that's why your middle name is Calvin, Marty? It's because of that guy who helped your father and I get together. It's weird, you remind us of him..."

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Also, in November of 1955, John F. Kennedy was widely known. His PT-109 exploits had been publicized in many big publications years earlier...and he was the eldest living son of one of the most famous/infamous Americans of the era. (Profiles in Courage would be released eight weeks later).

Marty's grandad should have known who he was!

 

[UNCGrad]

I never understood why Marty gets so mad when anyone calls him a chicken when it's never me mentioned in the first movie.

And while we're at it, why is it that everyone is no longer worried about Rocky going blind after his second fight with Apollo when he ends up having 10 title defenses, fights Clubber Lang twice, fights Drago, gets in a street fight, then fights in his 60s.

Regarding Rocky and Clubber, how the hell is there not a third fight?

 

[justgladtobehere]

Piersall ran backwards while he was with the Mets.

Huh. Whenever I heard it he was a Red Sox. I didn't know he lasted that long considering what he was dealing with.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Also, in November of 1955, John F. Kennedy was widely known. His PT-109 exploits had been publicized in many big publications years earlier...and he was the eldest living son of one of the most famous/infamous Americans of the era. (Profiles in Courage would be released eight weeks later).

Marty's grandad should have known who he was!

And also, Marty pays for the cup of coffee at the diner with 1985-era coins. If Lou or someone else looks at the years of the coins, that could be some sort of space time continuum problem. And Doc even semi-acknowledges this in other films when he has money from different years and says they have to be prepared for all monetary possibilities.

 

[DanOregon]

 

[Baron Scicluna]

That's where I get that from.