The Strange Desire To Mythologize Derek Jeter Above All Things

[Double Down]

Yeah, that did not happen.

 

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Jeter should be the first ever unanimous HOFer says Tom Seaver.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/derek-jeter-unanimous-hall-fame-selection-tom-seaver-article-1.1879608

 

[JayFarrar]

Jeter should be the first ever unanimous HOFer says Tom Seaver.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/derek-jeter-unanimous-hall-fame-selection-tom-seaver-article-1.1879608

I just got done reading that.

Interesting even though I thought people had gone in as unanimous selections before.

I just wonder what the justification was for someone voting against Seaver or Nolan Ryan.

 

[NDJournalist]

Jeter should be the first ever unanimous HOFer says Tom Seaver.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/derek-jeter-unanimous-hall-fame-selection-tom-seaver-article-1.1879608

Not even close.

 

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I just wonder what the justification was for someone voting against Seaver or Nolan Ryan.

There are some people who believe that, because players like Mays and Aaron were not unanimous, no one should be. Which, if you think about it, is obnoxious considering part of the reason they weren't unanimous was likely racism, so those old racist votes get to live on forever.

Also, there's always a "look at me!" vote by someone.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Not to mention, as pertains to Jeter, the blanket harrumph against modern players issued by Ken Gurnick:

"As for those who played during the period of PED use, I won't vote for any of them."

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

These guys still don't get it, after all that's happened. It's not about them.
You have to be pretty full of yourself to declare with a straight face that you would never ever vote somebody into an artificially created kingdom.
That or developmentally arrested.

 

[CD Boogie]

These guys still don't get it, after all that's happened. It's not about them.
You have to be pretty full of yourself to declare with a straight face that you would never ever vote somebody into an artificially created kingdom.
That or developmentally arrested.

Jeter won't get in uanimously, but he might beat the record for the highest voting percentage ever. It's idiotic to not vote for guys who you think might get in unanimously (because pantheon guys like Mays, Aaron, Ruth and Cobb didn't get in unanimously). But in a voting body consisting of more than 500 people, it's inevitable that a handful of morons will exist. I mean, 11 people didn't vote for Babe Ruth. I can see four guys not voting for Cobb (because he was an asshole racist with sociopathic tendencies), but how 11 guys back then saw fit not to vote for Ruth (and less than a year after his retirement) is bizarre.

 

[Songbird]

And yet -- keeping in mind past idiotic voting behavior -- Maddux not getting 100 percent is even more bizarre.

 

[JayFarrar]

Are the Hall of Fame votes public?

I guess I don't pay as close attention to baseball as I thought because I would have bet money players ahd been inducted unanimously.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofmem4.shtml

I guess this is a rabbit hole I don't want to fall in but Ruth isn't even in the top 10 as he is tied with Honus Wagner at 11th.

By margin, Ty Cobb came the closest and missed being perfect by four votes. Could it have been something simple like four people didn't turn them in or is that a dumb question?

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

The voters don't pay attention to baseball, either.

 

[CD Boogie]

Are the Hall of Fame votes public?

I guess I don't pay as close attention to baseball as I thought because I would have bet money players ahd been inducted unanimously.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofmem4.shtml

I guess this is a rabbit hole I don't want to fall in but Ruth isn't even in the top 10 as he is tied with Honus Wagner at 11th.

By margin, Ty Cobb came the closest and missed being perfect by four votes. Could it have been something simple like four people didn't turn them in or is that a dumb question?

No offense, but would it kill you to Google some of these things before asking questions?