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Vice raised BILLIONS of dollars in equity and debt financing while a distorted interest rate market had people treating money with no respect. It burned through an insane amount of cash. ... and nothing productive came of it. At one point, people were buying equity in the company (and not just people, Canadian tax payers, Disney. ... George Soros provided debt financing!) at a $5.7 billion valuation.
There is a huge unseen cost to that. ... that money has to come from somewhere. There are all kinds of way more productive things the money could have potentially found that would have been viable. And we all lose from that never having bee nallowed to happen. Those alternatives could have provided jobs that were actually stable and not a fantasy, and benefited people with something that their demand was paying for instead of forcing people into risky behavior by robbing them of yield.
The environment that made Vice at that valuation possible even made relatively smart people act delusionally (in hindsight). ... Not only was Disney one of the entities that got holding the bag, it could have been even worse for them. ... Shane Smith turned away a $3.5 billion offer for the entire thing from Disney! How much does he kick himself every morning?
There is a huge unseen cost to that. ... that money has to come from somewhere. There are all kinds of way more productive things the money could have potentially found that would have been viable. And we all lose from that never having bee nallowed to happen. Those alternatives could have provided jobs that were actually stable and not a fantasy, and benefited people with something that their demand was paying for instead of forcing people into risky behavior by robbing them of yield.
The environment that made Vice at that valuation possible even made relatively smart people act delusionally (in hindsight). ... Not only was Disney one of the entities that got holding the bag, it could have been even worse for them. ... Shane Smith turned away a $3.5 billion offer for the entire thing from Disney! How much does he kick himself every morning?