NFL Week 9 Running Thread

[Michael_ Gee]

In fairness, Young is up against the same defense that made Donovan McNabb look awful last week. Since he's no McNabb, he's getting obliterated.

 

[fever_dog]

1) his arm isn't weak.

Vince Young is horrible. A fourth-round draft pick from East Carolina (David Garrard) is out-classing him.

i'm sure young will look a little better in his fifth nfl season.

Well, they can't dumb the offense down enough for him. He's slow (which makes me realized the USC and Michigan defenses he beat in his last two bowl games were overrated) and he's got a weak arm. Would any coach or GM want to look at this crap for the five years it will take to get him to the mediocre level?

1) young doesn't have a weak arm.
2) he will likely have a lot of games like this. he really has no business starting this season.
3) the jags d is good, if at times inconsistent.
4) he's helped the titans to two wins this season, and put a scare into the colts. he has a long way to go, but he's a work in progress.

young deserves the same consideration that reggie bush and leinart get, because they also have been equally horrible this season.

 

[Oz]

Kansas City 24, St. Louis 10. Three Rams tovers = 17 KC points. Damon LJ already well over 100 yards and has a TD, and Damon Huard has two touchdown passes to the greatest tight end this side of The Soldier, Kellen Winslow.

Wouldn't that be Antonio Gates? Or Alge Crumpler?

 

[hondo]

1) his arm isn't weak.

Vince Young is horrible. A fourth-round draft pick from East Carolina (David Garrard) is out-classing him.

i'm sure young will look a little better in his fifth nfl season.

Well, they can't dumb the offense down enough for him. He's slow (which makes me realized the USC and Michigan defenses he beat in his last two bowl games were overrated) and he's got a weak arm. Would any coach or GM want to look at this crap for the five years it will take to get him to the mediocre level?

1) young doesn't have a weak arm.
2) he will likely have a lot of games like this. he really has no business starting this season.
3) the jags d is good, if at times inconsistent.
4) he's helped the titans to two wins this season, and put a scare into the colts. he has a long way to go, but he's a work in progress.

young deserves the same consideration that reggie bush and leinart get, because they also have been equally horrible this season.

If you think Vince Young has a strong arm, you probably think Tim Wakefield is a power pitcher. He short-arms everything, and leads the league in ground balls.
Watch a game once in awhile.

 

[fever_dog]

1) his arm isn't weak.

Vince Young is horrible. A fourth-round draft pick from East Carolina (David Garrard) is out-classing him.

i'm sure young will look a little better in his fifth nfl season.

Well, they can't dumb the offense down enough for him. He's slow (which makes me realized the USC and Michigan defenses he beat in his last two bowl games were overrated) and he's got a weak arm. Would any coach or GM want to look at this crap for the five years it will take to get him to the mediocre level?

1) young doesn't have a weak arm.
2) he will likely have a lot of games like this. he really has no business starting this season.
3) the jags d is good, if at times inconsistent.
4) he's helped the titans to two wins this season, and put a scare into the colts. he has a long way to go, but he's a work in progress.

young deserves the same consideration that reggie bush and leinart get, because they also have been equally horrible this season.

If you think Vince Young has a strong arm, you probably think Tim Wakefield is a power pitcher. He short-arms everything, and leads the league in ground balls.
Watch a game once in awhile.

sounds like an accuracy-mechanics issue, to me. i've watched a lot of young. rip him for his reads, his accuracy and his mechanics. arm strength is not a problem. but based on your previous obsvervations of being wowed by a fifth-year player, i guess i can't expect you to know what you're talking about.

 

[OTD]

I don't have any details since I can't see the game here, but when is Chuckie Gruden going to get canned? The Bucs are striving for a new level of suckitude.

 

[hondo]

1) his arm isn't weak.

Vince Young is horrible. A fourth-round draft pick from East Carolina (David Garrard) is out-classing him.

i'm sure young will look a little better in his fifth nfl season.

Well, they can't dumb the offense down enough for him. He's slow (which makes me realized the USC and Michigan defenses he beat in his last two bowl games were overrated) and he's got a weak arm. Would any coach or GM want to look at this crap for the five years it will take to get him to the mediocre level?

1) young doesn't have a weak arm.
2) he will likely have a lot of games like this. he really has no business starting this season.
3) the jags d is good, if at times inconsistent.
4) he's helped the titans to two wins this season, and put a scare into the colts. he has a long way to go, but he's a work in progress.

young deserves the same consideration that reggie bush and leinart get, because they also have been equally horrible this season.

If you think Vince Young has a strong arm, you probably think Tim Wakefield is a power pitcher. He short-arms everything, and leads the league in ground balls.
Watch a game once in awhile.

sounds like an accuracy-mechanics issue, to me. i've watched a lot of young. rip him for his reads, his accuracy and his mechanics. arm strength is not a problem. but based on your previous obsvervations of being wowed by a fifth-year player, i guess i can't expect you to know what you're talking about.

I'm far from being wowed by David Garrard. But in the same game as Vince Young, he's looking like Marino.
Through three quarters, Young's QB rating is 9.7 (not a misprint). Garrard is 124.4.
Vince Young sucks out loud. If he ever leads a team to the playoffs or makes all-pro, I'll gladly eat the words but this is looking like the worst draft pick since Sam Bowie instead of Michael Jordan.

 

[cougargirl]

On a side note, how hard IS it to get into Heinz Field, anyways. All those heading to the North Side, leave your nail clippers and nerve gas at home.

I hope I haven't d_b'ed.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06309/735924-100.stm

 

[OTD]

On a side note, how hard IS it to get into Heinz Field, anyways. All those heading to the North Side, leave your nail clippers and nerve gas at home.

I hope I haven't d_b'ed.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06309/735924-100.stm

One of the men, Sudeep Paul, 21, of New York, was charged with conspiracy, and the other, Anand Shankar Durvasula, 20, of California, was charged with conspiracy and criminal trespass. Police said both live off campus in the Squirrel Hill area.

. . . and would there be such a big deal made if their names had been Hamilton Wentworth III and Chad Jones?

 

[fever_dog]

1) his arm isn't weak.

Vince Young is horrible. A fourth-round draft pick from East Carolina (David Garrard) is out-classing him.

i'm sure young will look a little better in his fifth nfl season.

Well, they can't dumb the offense down enough for him. He's slow (which makes me realized the USC and Michigan defenses he beat in his last two bowl games were overrated) and he's got a weak arm. Would any coach or GM want to look at this crap for the five years it will take to get him to the mediocre level?

1) young doesn't have a weak arm.
2) he will likely have a lot of games like this. he really has no business starting this season.
3) the jags d is good, if at times inconsistent.
4) he's helped the titans to two wins this season, and put a scare into the colts. he has a long way to go, but he's a work in progress.

young deserves the same consideration that reggie bush and leinart get, because they also have been equally horrible this season.

If you think Vince Young has a strong arm, you probably think Tim Wakefield is a power pitcher. He short-arms everything, and leads the league in ground balls.
Watch a game once in awhile.

sounds like an accuracy-mechanics issue, to me. i've watched a lot of young. rip him for his reads, his accuracy and his mechanics. arm strength is not a problem. but based on your previous obsvervations of being wowed by a fifth-year player, i guess i can't expect you to know what you're talking about.

I'm far from being wowed by David Garrard. But in the same game as Vince Young, he's looking like Marino.
Through three quarters, Young's QB rating is 9.7 (not a misprint). Garrard is 124.4.
Vince Young sucks out loud. If he ever leads a team to the playoffs or makes all-pro, I'll gladly eat the words but this is looking like the worst draft pick since Sam Bowie instead of Michael Jordan.

or, while we're overreacting, is it reggie bush? so far against the bucs: 11 carries, minus-5 yards ...

 

[heyabbott]

Why isn't Vick dominating the suckass Detroit Lions?

 

[Chuck~Taylor]

Why isn't Vick dominating the suckass Detroit Lions?

Receivers dropping balls and bad pass protection.