Rachel Dolezal 2.0, #BlackLivesMatter Activist Shaun King is White

[LongTimeListener]

It means that perhaps not being totally certain who your father is might be an unpleasant thing for a person to discuss before a nationwide audience.

You are having a hard time believing that a birth certificate could be an inaccurate representation of paternity. Why? We know it sometimes is.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Black Lives Matter, But The Truth Doesn't

 

[LongTimeListener]

Black Lives Matter, But The Truth Doesn't

Did it matter to Breitbart?

 

[SoloFlyer]

When the truth is on your side, it's really easy to answer questions.

Instead, he says this:

I have promised my wife, kids, extended family, and friends that this will be the last time I talk about this publicly for a long time.

Sorry, but that's what people who are lying say all the time.

He puts out a statement, answers no questions, and says he's done talking about it. That's not how people who are telling the truth act.

How would you act if you were being forced to reveal family secrets to the world? What if this was your mother who was suddenly going to have her infidelity or sexual proclivities made public?

It's one thing to acknowledge something within the family and to close friends. To say, "Yeah, my mom had a bunch of kids. My siblings are scattered everywhere." But to blast it everywhere? And to force a non-public figure - his mother - to do it? Anyone with a heart would try to keep their mother out of the press.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

How would you act if you were being forced to reveal family secrets to the world? What if this was your mother who was suddenly going to have her infidelity or sexual proclivities made public?

It's one thing to acknowledge something within the family and to close friends. To say, "Yeah, my mom had a bunch of kids. My siblings are scattered everywhere." But to blast it everywhere? And to force a non-public figure - his mother - to do it? Anyone with a heart would try to keep their mother out of the press.

Or an agenda.

 

[YankeeFan]

It means that perhaps not being totally certain who your father is might be an unpleasant thing for a person to discuss before a nationwide audience.

You are having a hard time believing that a birth certificate could be an inaccurate representation of paternity. Why? We know it sometimes is.

Sure it happens sometimes.

If we had a large enough sample, I'm sure we would find some examples of this.

Here, we have a sample of 1. That drops the odds a little.

This guy has presented less evidence that his father is a "light skinned" black man than "Jackie" presented about "Drew" being her rapist.

So, who's the dad?

How is naming him any more or less embarrassing to his mom at this point?

 

[SoloFlyer]

Common? Where? According to who?

BTW, I don't believe Shaun's mom was unwed at the time.

I don't know if your ignorance is willful or just naivety, but there are entire sections of law arguments - including the famous Baby Jessica case - dealing with paternity and mothers listing non-biological fathers on birth certificates.

How to Establish Paternity | Nolo.com

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Did it matter to Breitbart?

Just saying the movement is more important than the truth. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Stoney]

How would you act if you were being forced to reveal family secrets to the world? What if this was your mother who was suddenly going to have her infidelity or sexual proclivities made public?

It's one thing to acknowledge something within the family and to close friends. To say, "Yeah, my mom had a bunch of kids. My siblings are scattered everywhere." But to blast it everywhere? And to force a non-public figure - his mother - to do it? Anyone with a heart would try to keep their mother out of the press.

Absolutely agree. But again, I'm curious, wouldn't the easiest way to shut up the Breitbarts AND keep the media off his mother's doorstep be to simply have a DNA test done? Simply announcing "I'm not gonna talk about it anymore!!" ain't gonna spare his mom from scrutiny/questioning nearly as well as that would.

 

[SoloFlyer]

Absolutely agree. But again, I'm curious, wouldn't the easiest way to shut up the Breitbarts AND keep the media off his mother's doorstep be to simply submit to a DNA test? Simply announcing "I'm not gonna talk about it anymore!!" ain't gonna spare his mom from scrutiny and questioning nearly as well as that would.

His mom told him it was a black man. But not who that black man was. It could have been one single person who she just doesn't want to reveal. Or she could have had multiple partners and is unsure which of those black men it is.

Or maybe she knows who it is and that man is dead. Or has a family elsewhere, and she doesn't feel like dragging them into this. Or maybe it was an affair with a married black man. There are any number of logical reasons to not subject people to a paternity test.

 

[YankeeFan]

Let's look at the spin he puts on his failed lawsuit as well:

I had fractures in my face and ribs, but most badly damaged was my spine. I ended up having three spinal surgeries and missed 20 months of school over it. My entire family endured this deeply painful time in my life ranging from the surgeries, the brutal recovery, physical therapy, and professional counseling. It was rougher than my words will ever do justice. Many people have said that in the police report it listed me as white—as if I checked the box and that was some deep admission. Today, that officer admitted to the New York Times that I never said I was white, but that he assumed so when he saw my mother. He and the school badly mishandled my case. We sued the school system for years because of their mishandling of it. They fought it tooth and nail and my mother and I eventually just gave up on it.

Should I believe this at face value too?

So, he was wronged, the school mishandled it, and they just dropped it?

I call bull shirt. You don't drop a good lawsuit. A lawyer, looking at getting 33% of a judgement wouldn't drop it.

Maybe he just had a bad case and/or brought a frivolous lawsuit. Maybe the facts weren't on his side.

 

[YankeeFan]

I don't know if your ignorance is willful or just naivety, but there are entire sections of law arguments - including the famous Baby Jessica case - dealing with paternity and mothers listing non-biological fathers on birth certificates.

How to Establish Paternity | Nolo.com

I know it happens. Of course it does. But you said it was common.

How do you define common?