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2014 Emmy Nominations and Comments

Steak Snabler said:
Jake_Taylor said:
RonClements said:
Double Down said:
I'm still laughing at the Kate Mara guest actress nom, for which she did about 12 mins of work.

Alec Baldwin WON an Oscar for Glengarry Glen Ross and he was in that movie for all of 10 minutes.

He also delivered one of the most memorable and oft-quoted soliloquies in movie history. Kate Mara had a dummy version of herself thrown in front of a train.

Baldwin did not win an Oscar for GGR, nor was he nominated. His only Oscar nomination is for The Cooler.

Man, I feel dumb now. I've actually thought he won for years. Thanks for pointing out my error.
 
RonClements said:
To me, "reality" television is more scripted than it is real and it's also just lazy television. Instead of actually having writers come up with an original script and story, it's, "Hey, let's put a bunch of cameras around these people, hit record and see what happens. But first, let's make sure the folks know what we want them to do and manufacture some fake melodrama."
And, do you ever wonder how those really bad singers get into the American Idol auditions? Because most of them are actors hired to sing terribly to simply pander to a television audience. Reality TV is out there to insult everyone's intelligence in the name of entertainment. I have never watched an entire episode of any one reality show because it's just unwatchable.

I don't think they need to hire people to be bad singers at the American Idol auditions. Thousands of people show up to those things every year on their own. All they have to do is let a few of the bad ones through to make for good TV.
Of the reality show genre, I think the only ones that are anywhere close to being actual reality are probably American Idol and Big Brother. And, truthfully, both of those are closer to game shows than traditional reality TV. Both are competitions that include plenty of live coverage that's hard to fake for any length of time.
Idol has the bad singers in the beginning, but none of those people are making it past the preliminary rounds without everyone involved looking stupid.
With Big Brother, everyone knows it's a game and is doing whatever they can to win it. The drama flows naturally from that. There's no reason to manufacture it, other than whatever twists they come up with to inject some into the game.
 
Batman said:
RonClements said:
To me, "reality" television is more scripted than it is real and it's also just lazy television. Instead of actually having writers come up with an original script and story, it's, "Hey, let's put a bunch of cameras around these people, hit record and see what happens. But first, let's make sure the folks know what we want them to do and manufacture some fake melodrama."
And, do you ever wonder how those really bad singers get into the American Idol auditions? Because most of them are actors hired to sing terribly to simply pander to a television audience. Reality TV is out there to insult everyone's intelligence in the name of entertainment. I have never watched an entire episode of any one reality show because it's just unwatchable.

I don't think they need to hire people to be bad singers at the American Idol auditions. Thousands of people show up to those things every year on their own. All they have to do is let a few of the bad ones through to make for good TV.
Of the reality show genre, I think the only ones that are anywhere close to being actual reality are probably American Idol and Big Brother. And, truthfully, both of those are closer to game shows than traditional reality TV. Both are competitions that include plenty of live coverage that's hard to fake for any length of time.
Idol has the bad singers in the beginning, but none of those people are making it past the preliminary rounds without everyone involved looking stupid.
With Big Brother, everyone knows it's a game and is doing whatever they can to win it. The drama flows naturally from that. There's no reason to manufacture it, other than whatever twists they come up with to inject some into the game.

American Idol does hire "ringers" to be exceptionally bad and flamboyant singers during the auditions. This is a fact.
I've never seen a single minute of Big Brother.
 
RonClements said:
Batman said:
RonClements said:
To me, "reality" television is more scripted than it is real and it's also just lazy television. Instead of actually having writers come up with an original script and story, it's, "Hey, let's put a bunch of cameras around these people, hit record and see what happens. But first, let's make sure the folks know what we want them to do and manufacture some fake melodrama."
And, do you ever wonder how those really bad singers get into the American Idol auditions? Because most of them are actors hired to sing terribly to simply pander to a television audience. Reality TV is out there to insult everyone's intelligence in the name of entertainment. I have never watched an entire episode of any one reality show because it's just unwatchable.

I don't think they need to hire people to be bad singers at the American Idol auditions. Thousands of people show up to those things every year on their own. All they have to do is let a few of the bad ones through to make for good TV.
Of the reality show genre, I think the only ones that are anywhere close to being actual reality are probably American Idol and Big Brother. And, truthfully, both of those are closer to game shows than traditional reality TV. Both are competitions that include plenty of live coverage that's hard to fake for any length of time.
Idol has the bad singers in the beginning, but none of those people are making it past the preliminary rounds without everyone involved looking stupid.
With Big Brother, everyone knows it's a game and is doing whatever they can to win it. The drama flows naturally from that. There's no reason to manufacture it, other than whatever twists they come up with to inject some into the game.

American Idol does hire "ringers" to be exceptionally bad and flamboyant singers during the auditions. This is a fact.
I've never seen a single minute of Big Brother.

And also, when the American Idol hopefuls appear in front of the celebrity judges is not the first time anyone involved with the show has heard them sing. There is a preliminary screening process done by a production assistant prior to the recorded-for-broadcast audition. Clay Aiken, among others, has talked about this in interviews.

So if someone is truly a trainwreck, the PA will pass them through to the "celebrity judge" audition because they know it will be good television.
 
Steak Snabler said:
RonClements said:
Batman said:
RonClements said:
To me, "reality" television is more scripted than it is real and it's also just lazy television. Instead of actually having writers come up with an original script and story, it's, "Hey, let's put a bunch of cameras around these people, hit record and see what happens. But first, let's make sure the folks know what we want them to do and manufacture some fake melodrama."
And, do you ever wonder how those really bad singers get into the American Idol auditions? Because most of them are actors hired to sing terribly to simply pander to a television audience. Reality TV is out there to insult everyone's intelligence in the name of entertainment. I have never watched an entire episode of any one reality show because it's just unwatchable.

I don't think they need to hire people to be bad singers at the American Idol auditions. Thousands of people show up to those things every year on their own. All they have to do is let a few of the bad ones through to make for good TV.
Of the reality show genre, I think the only ones that are anywhere close to being actual reality are probably American Idol and Big Brother. And, truthfully, both of those are closer to game shows than traditional reality TV. Both are competitions that include plenty of live coverage that's hard to fake for any length of time.
Idol has the bad singers in the beginning, but none of those people are making it past the preliminary rounds without everyone involved looking stupid.
With Big Brother, everyone knows it's a game and is doing whatever they can to win it. The drama flows naturally from that. There's no reason to manufacture it, other than whatever twists they come up with to inject some into the game.

American Idol does hire "ringers" to be exceptionally bad and flamboyant singers during the auditions. This is a fact.
I've never seen a single minute of Big Brother.

And also, when the American Idol hopefuls appear in front of the celebrity judges is not the first time anyone involved with the show has heard them sing. There is a preliminary screening process done by a production assistant prior to the recorded-for-broadcast audition. Clay Aiken, among others, has talked about this in interviews.

So if someone is truly a trainwreck, the PA will pass them through to the "celebrity judge" audition because they know it will be good television.

See, this is why I didn't figure they needed to hire "ringers." There are plenty of awful singers with delusions of grandeur out there that it seems unnecessary. All they need to do is find a few bad ones through the screening process and save themselves some money.
 

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