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2020 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominee screechfest

Joan could get in JUST for this song which is better 35 years later.

Great video still.

 
I thought the fan vote winner automatically got in. If not, why have it? That said, DMB sucks out loud (although they are very good live, but that's far more because of the "B" than DM.) so I'm also fine with them being kept out.

I think Joan Jett got in because she was sort of a Pioneer. I can't think of another female artist who actually played an electric guitar before she and the Runaways did. I don't think she influenced anyone, especially considering biggest hits are covered, but she proved a female could lead a band, play hard rock and appeal to a male audience. And shirt, she's 61 and can still bring it.

I guess. I mean, I really enjoy Joan Jett (and the good picks of the Runaways ... they were either really good or really shirt), but I think it's a flimsy resume. Like Blondie in a different genre, she was a bit of a darling of the East Coast, aka Rolling Stone after 1977, media. That goes a long ways as we all know.

I really don't know why Blondie are in either. Immensely popular for a very short window, far less time as hit makers than Benatar honestly, none of their "sounds" were created by them (they weren't the first punks or new wavers or disco sellouts). Don't get it.
 
Joan could get in JUST for this song which is better 35 years later.

Great video still.



Love that song and the video is early 80s cheapie hilarious, but like most Jett hits, it's a cover. Better than Gary Glitter's now uber-creepy original considering what his fate turned out to be, but a cover nonetheless.

Here's a rare original by Jett that rawks.

 
I thought the fan vote winner automatically got in. If not, why have it? That said, DMB sucks out loud (although they are very good live, but that's far more because of the "B" than DM.) so I'm also fine with them being kept out.

I think Joan Jett got in because she was sort of a Pioneer. I can't think of another female artist who actually played an electric guitar before she and the Runaways did. I don't think she influenced anyone, especially considering biggest hits are covered, but she proved a female could lead a band, play hard rock and appeal to a male audience. And shirt, she's 61 and can still bring it.
I think she probably influenced quite a few female musicians who came in her wake.
 
I guess. I mean, I really enjoy Joan Jett (and the good picks of the Runaways ... they were either really good or really shirt), but I think it's a flimsy resume. Like Blondie in a different genre, she was a bit of a darling of the East Coast, aka Rolling Stone after 1977, media. That goes a long ways as we all know.

I really don't know why Blondie are in either. Immensely popular for a very short window, far less time as hit makers than Benatar honestly, none of their "sounds" were created by them (they weren't the first punks or new wavers or disco sellouts). Don't get it.

Yeah, Blondie doesn't make a ton of sense. Until I looked just now, I didn't realize how short their heyday was. Maybe because I was in junior high or so at the time it seemed like a lot longer, because those years dragged on forever. Benatar had a nice run and something like 15 top-40 hits, and a couple near-misses, but no chart-toppers (Blondie had four), and no song that really moved many needles, which both "The Tide is High" and "Rapture" did for Blondie, both of them major departures for both the band and top 40 at the time. Benatar's best song, arguably at least, was "heck is for Children," which never got released as a single, I imagine because of the subject matter.
 
I think she probably influenced quite a few female musicians who came in her wake.

Maybe in terms of getting them to pick up guitars and play, which is great. I meant more musically. She played basic three-chord rock, which is awesome to listen to, and her takes on stuff like "Crimson and Clover" and "Love is All Around" are outstanding, but it's tough to pick out someone who followed in her footsteps musically who wasn't merely following the footsteps Joan already followed herself.
 
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Yeah, Blondie doesn't make a ton of sense. Until I looked just now, I didn't realize how short their heyday was. Maybe because I was in junior high or so at the time it seemed like a lot longer, because those years dragged on forever. Benatar had a nice run and something like 15 top-40 hits, and a couple near-misses, but no chart-toppers (Blondie had four), and no song that really moved many needles, which both "The Tide is High" and "Rapture" did for Blondie, both of them major departures for both the band and top 40 at the time. Benatar's best song, arguably at least, was "heck is for Children," which never got released as a single, I imagine because of the subject matter.

I'll admit that arguing for Benatar is like arguing a Baseball Hall Of Fame case based on Harold Baines' resume, but the RRHOF set the bar lower by their own dint, so they opened the door to those kind of arguments. (I'd go with "Shadows Of The Night" as her best. Perfect power pop song filtered through a skosh of new wave synths.)

I agree on Jett. She definitely influenced the riot grrrrl movement of the early-mid 90s, but that was a very short-lived thing that was more fad than anything lasting.
 

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