30 for 30 running thread

[sportsguydave]

Trump reviews Tuesday's USFL episode in a note to the director:

"Mike
A third rate documentary — and extremely dishonest (as you know) —
Best wishes
Donald Trump

P.S. You are a loser"

Donald Trump calling someone a loser. Now that's projection.

 

[DanOregon]

I'm digging the USFL film - best part? Howard Cosell.

on second thought - maybe it's Trump calling out Steiner. Or Steiner calling out Trump.

Or Trump acting like a cocky ash in his suite during games while in the background are scores of empty seats.

 

[93Devil]

Reading that Steiner quote to Trump was fantastic.

 

[DanOregon]

I'd forgotten that Roy Cohn was the USFL's lawyer in the anti-trust case. It makes me laugh hearing Trump talk about always being around things that are first clash . I would love to have that $3 check the NFL wrote to the USFL. Now that would be an interesting piece of memorabilia.

 

[Steak Snabler]

Enjoyed the USFL doc immensely, though Stoller Tollin should have had the balls to entitle it "Donald Trump Killed the USFL," because that's what he and everyone else in the film other than Trump believes.

EDIT: To fix director's name.

 

[DanOregon]

It was Mike Tollin who did the documentary- I'd forgotten about John Bashet, I had a crush on his daughter Carling at the time.
Trump might have been right that the USFL was on borrowed time regardless, but the move to the fall only hastened the demise. Attendance and ratings were headed south, owners were going broke and franchises were moving about the country in search of fans. Funny how some of the players sucking up the most money were saying the league should have tried to stay small.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Couple of subtle little mentions which earned it a big thumbs-up here.

 

[Bob Cook]

Donald Trump is always held up (by him, at least) as this great businessman, but you don't have to be Mark Cuban to note that he continually forks over his investors and partners to his own benefit. The USFL turned Trump from a cocky real-estate guy (built on his father's fortune) into a national name. Trump didn't give fork-all about the USFL's success, only Trump's success. Ask anyone who has invested with Trump, and you'll find people who got forked over 10 ways to Sunday. How many bankruptcies have his properties had? How many of his bondholders were left with nothing but pieces of paper not worthy enough to wipe your ash with?

 

[Armchair_QB]

Anybody know when the USFL piece will run again? I forgot to tivo it tonight.

Never mind, it's on ESPN 2 now.

 

[Small Town Guy]

Any mention of Trump makes this story always worthwhile. Jeff Macgregor's Let us Now Raze Famous Men.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105262/index.htm

Trump scowls that well-known scowl, all gunfighter squint and powdered jowls, a dour look that must have bought him all kinds of street cred with the other kids at military school.

 

[CitizenTino]

A couple questions from somebody not old enough to remember the USFL:

1. If Trump was throwing money around and bringing in superstar players, why were his teams nowhere to be found in the championship game?

2. What was the deal with the Stars going from Philly to Baltimore? They were supposedly the model team for the league and they couldn't sustain themselves in a market the size of Philadelphia?

 

[DanOregon]

This was just after the Colts fled for Indy. Balto offered a better deal. And if you watched last week's ep of 30" - you heard the answer to the question name the only city to have four different football teams win four professional football league titles since 1960.