All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

[Bubbler]

There is still a belief that all Tebow's comebacks were a happy accident and that end-of-game football is no different from second-quarter football. That's ridiculous to me. But if you're going to judge football on a spreadsheet, I suppose it's the way to look at it.

That's EXACTLY what it was. Of Tebow's seven wins, at least five were the result of abject ineptitude by the opposition:

Mia (18-15): Dolphins can't recover an onside kick with the lead late in regulation
KC (17-10): Tebow was 2-for-8 passing. TWO-FOR-EIGHT.
Jets (17-13): Scored their first TD on a pick of Mark Sanchez and punted on eight straight possessions before the Jets allowed him to go 95 yards in the final five minutes
Vikings (35-32): Ponder throws a pick deep in Broncos territory in the final minute
Bears (13-10): Marion Barber is the world's biggest idiot

That's not even counting a Norv Turner special against the Chargers. The Broncos should be 4-12, at best. Lord Tebow is not even remotely close to an NFL QB, and he's set the Broncos back another couple years with his fluke run. Hopefully they open 0-8 next year and we never have to hear about him ever again.

BLASPHEMER!

 

[Dick Whitman]

deck, all due respect, stop making shirt up. People arguing on behalf of Tebow here, on this website, were not -- in any instance -- arguing that he was "so good." It didn't happen. What people argued, and I'll happily admit I was one of those people, was that the other extreme was stupid. And there were people here suggesting he was contributing nothing to any of the team's success. That evidence is easy to produce. On the other side, you have created a strawman in an effort to be smug. If you want to imply anyone here was sucking off Tebow and claiming he was "so good" please produce the posts. I'm confident the kind of hyperbole you're accusing people of exists only in your head.

I'll produce the evidence later on today when I have some time.

People thought it. People posted it.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I honestly believe Tebow is a legitimate NFL starter. And I enjoy watching him in the fourth quarter.

I have no clue how long this success will last, but I know one thing:

The Jacksonville Jaguars really blew it when they passed on drafting him.

Les Carpenter nailed my view of The Tebow One with this column.

I don't get it, but I enjoy it and I believe it can, will and has worked. I like watching him play football. I'm an atheist. This religious side of the hype is nonsense to me, but it's at least comical nonsense. But really, I do believe in Tim Tebow as a quarterback at the NFL level, in whatever sense you can say you believe in something based on what you've actually seen and logically can prove.

I don't view Tebow much differently than all the baseball players I've seen who have succeeded despite weird batting stances. He's Chuck Knoblauch, with less hate in his heart. Good for him.

So Rookie of the Year is locked up right?

Stat line is not so hot, but ...

If Tim Tebow still loved Jesus, were kind of ugly, and played for a lousy team, no one would give a damn about him. Kind of like Colt McCoy.

He did play for a lousy team. Until he became the starting QB.

The guy wins. That's what matters at every level past youth sports, and that's good enough for me.

Tebow is a very good football player. Denver needs to find a way to showcase the things that make him a very good football player.

Make him an H-back that throws the ball five times a game.

Tebow just wins. Deal with it.

Until Tebow starts losing, you have to keep running him out there. And if they make the playoffs this year, you have to build your team around him.

 

[poindexter]

Brian Griffin, that missed opportunity on the flea flicker is when i fell off the bsndwagon. That play, and the rest of the game, he looked frozen in the pocket, unable to pull the trigger. And since the first quarter of the New England game, he's been unable to make play with his feet. Regression when he needed to show progression. And he has zero margin for error to make any turnovers.

Oh well, i enjoyed watching some of the plays he made earlier. It was fun for a few games.

 

[Double Down]

I honestly believe Tebow is a legitimate NFL starter. And I enjoy watching him in the fourth quarter.

I have no clue how long this success will last, but I know one thing:

The Jacksonville Jaguars really blew it when they passed on drafting him.

Les Carpenter nailed my view of The Tebow One with this column.

I don't get it, but I enjoy it and I believe it can, will and has worked. I like watching him play football. I'm an atheist. This religious side of the hype is nonsense to me, but it's at least comical nonsense. But really, I do believe in Tim Tebow as a quarterback at the NFL level, in whatever sense you can say you believe in something based on what you've actually seen and logically can prove.

I don't view Tebow much differently than all the baseball players I've seen who have succeeded despite weird batting stances. He's Chuck Knoblauch, with less hate in his heart. Good for him.

So Rookie of the Year is locked up right?

Stat line is not so hot, but ...

If Tim Tebow still loved Jesus, were kind of ugly, and played for a lousy team, no one would give a damn about him. Kind of like Colt McCoy.

He did play for a lousy team. Until he became the starting QB.

The guy wins. That's what matters at every level past youth sports, and that's good enough for me.

Tebow is a very good football player. Denver needs to find a way to showcase the things that make him a very good football player.

Make him an H-back that throws the ball five times a game.

Tebow just wins. Deal with it.

Until Tebow starts losing, you have to keep running him out there. And if they make the playoffs this year, you have to build your team around him.

So you have a bunch of innocuous quotes that don't ever rise to the level of someone saying he's "so good" and one quote from Devil, who enjoys saying wacky stuff regularly, saying you have to build your team around him if they make the playoffs.

I'm even more confident in my position. The people sucking off Tebow and saying he was "so good" weren't on this board.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I honestly believe Tebow is a legitimate NFL starter. And I enjoy watching him in the fourth quarter.

I have no clue how long this success will last, but I know one thing:

The Jacksonville Jaguars really blew it when they passed on drafting him.

Les Carpenter nailed my view of The Tebow One with this column.

I don't get it, but I enjoy it and I believe it can, will and has worked. I like watching him play football. I'm an atheist. This religious side of the hype is nonsense to me, but it's at least comical nonsense. But really, I do believe in Tim Tebow as a quarterback at the NFL level, in whatever sense you can say you believe in something based on what you've actually seen and logically can prove.

I don't view Tebow much differently than all the baseball players I've seen who have succeeded despite weird batting stances. He's Chuck Knoblauch, with less hate in his heart. Good for him.

So Rookie of the Year is locked up right?

Stat line is not so hot, but ...

If Tim Tebow still loved Jesus, were kind of ugly, and played for a lousy team, no one would give a damn about him. Kind of like Colt McCoy.

He did play for a lousy team. Until he became the starting QB.

The guy wins. That's what matters at every level past youth sports, and that's good enough for me.

Tebow is a very good football player. Denver needs to find a way to showcase the things that make him a very good football player.

Make him an H-back that throws the ball five times a game.

Tebow just wins. Deal with it.

Until Tebow starts losing, you have to keep running him out there. And if they make the playoffs this year, you have to build your team around him.

So you have a bunch of innocuous quotes that don't ever rise to the level of someone saying he's "so good" and one quote from Devil, who enjoys saying wacky stuff regularly, saying you have to build your team around him if they make the playoffs.

I'm even more confident in my position. The people sucking off Tebow and saying he was "so good" weren't on this board.

This seems like it has become a semantic argument.

When people repeatedly say that he has an innate ability to win, or that his particular skill set could work in the NFL, to me that's saying he's "so good." No one says he's a great passer, that's true. Although people stepped close that edge after the win against the 1985 Chicago Bears. Oops, I mean the 2011 Minnesota Vikings. Easy mistake to make if you followed that game on here.

"The guy wins."

"Tebow just wins."

I see people here arguing that Jack Morris should be a Baseball Hall of Famer, based on the same logic.

I wonder if Tebow might have a future as an NFL tight end. Don't know anything about his hands, but he's a big, strong, physical guy.

 

[mb]

For Denver, this is absolutely the worst-case scenario. Make the playoffs, but barely, and do it with Tebow not showing a whole lot of progression from start 1 to last week.

 

[MileHigh]

Making the playoffs always a good thing. But the Tebow has been so thoroughly exposed the past few weeks. He definitely does not have the starting job locked up for next year.

As was said last night: The jig is up. It's over. Fool's gold.

 

[kingcreole]

With Tim Tebow leading the Broncos to the AFC West title, it's a fair question to ask - Is Tim Tebow the worst division winning QB in NFL history?

 

[93Devil]

OK, DD, I will say more wacky shirt.

Who is the Week 1 starting QB in Denver next year?

I say it's Tebow, and I think he has earned the job. Is he Joe Montana? No. Is he worth a shot? Yes.

And if it's not Tebow, then who is your starting QB?

I love people who scream that there is a problem but cannot give a solution.

 

[JC]

OK, DD, I will say more wacky shirt.

Who is the Week 1 starting QB in Denver next year?

I say it's Tebow, and I think he has earned the job. Is he Joe Montana? No. Is he worth a shot? Yes.

And if it's not Tebow, then who is your starting QB?

I love people who scream that there is a problem but cannot give a solution.

Do you still believe he is in the top 15 QB's in the league?

 

[BrianGriffin]

Brian Griffin, that missed opportunity on the flea flicker is when i fell off the bsndwagon. That play, and the rest of the game, he looked frozen in the pocket, unable to pull the trigger. And since the first quarter of the New England game, he's been unable to make play with his feet. Regression when he needed to show progression. And he has zero margin for error to make any turnovers.

Oh well, i enjoyed watching some of the plays he made earlier. It was fun for a few games.

This could be the best thing that could have happened to him. Maybe there is a little more arrogance in him than he ever shows publicly and he thinks he can get it done "his way" and that all these "football people" are wrong.

Well, now he knows. He needs to straighten out his delivery and throw more consistently accurate passes. He needs to read progressions like any other QB.

Maybe on some level it will sink in and things will click mentally in the off-season and we'll see REAL progression come next July in training camp.

I don't think you were going to see much progress from him as a passer this year because Denver has been protecting him. When he didn't throw that pass to Decker, it's not Urban Meyer's voice he was hearing in his head, it was John Fox's.