ASE, Miami Herald

[cityemployee]

The only one who is ignorant is you ... I know and have known people in Miami and they enjoyed their experience. The point I'm trying to make is that if you are unhappy on the desk, any desk, quit. I don't care if it's Miami or Myrtle Beach.

Miami's different? Thanks for the news flash. I work at a major daily and it's different then the low-level dailies I worked at previously. Every paper is different.

The only people that are ignorant are the people that go to a major daily and think it is going to be easy.

 

[Frank_Ridgeway]

A lot of people hate they're jobs

elis ... your right ... I'm not a desker ... deskerers never make mistakess ... especially when you right two sentencess.

it's different then the low-level

You spell like Boom.

I win.

 

[cityemployee]

you're arguement still sucs ... you lost, Fank

Go tell some more Miami war stories at your local dive bar ... How tough you are for surviving that incredible experience ... show the patrons your medals

 

[Frank_Ridgeway]

you're arguement

Hahahaha. They're calling your event at the Special Olympics. Hurry!

 

[cityemployee]

War hero ... Frank Ridgeway

 

[MileHigh]

elis ... your right ... I'm not a desker ... deskerers never make mistakess ... especially when you right two sentencess.

Frank, why is the newspaper business the only business where people are overworked, underappreciated and underpaid? I'm sure most people feel that way about THEIR job (yes, there are other jobs besides working at newspapers). All I'm saying is if you don't like the hours and the frustrations, get out of the business. I've worked on some pretty good desks over the years. The individuals that can separate the job from the rest of their life are the ones that aren't so bitter and don't create bad desks.

Desk jobs pay pretty well at the larger papers, where the workload is greater and so is the pressure. Some people can handle it, some can't. Those that can't need to find another job.

Look, you aren't going to get this. Miami is different. It's not your fault that what you've seen elsewhere doesn't translate to Miami, but you are ignorant just the same. It's OK, everyone's that way before they get there. Before I interviewed, the SE in San Jose at the time, another Miami alum, told me, "The Herald is a very special place, different from any other sports department." I said, how? He said, "You'll see." And he laughed. In my mind later, I recalled it as a sinister laugh, but it probably wasn't.

My time in Miami was after Frank, and I believe after SF as well (I don't know either one), but, yeah, it's different, and it's kind of hard to explain. But, it's fast, it's frantic, it's frustrating, it's exhilarating, it's rewarding, and, yeah, it's hard. It shocked me at first, too, but I think I adjusted pretty well. There are some things I don't miss. There are many things I do miss.

 

[spaceman]

BROWru incoming, Chico!

 

[gridiron]

Look, the expectations in Miami are sky high, for reporters and editors. You go there to work, but you'll be better for it (and extremely tired) in the end. Working there made a man out of me.

 

[miamiheraldchick]

From what everyone tells me, the Herald sports desk of the '80s, and maybe into the early '90s, was as good as it gets. A certain spirit was built up that's hard to find, so people didn't mind busting ass.

Are there any copy desks like that now? Just wondering where ........?

 

[sheos]

From what everyone tells me, the Herald sports desk of the '80s, and maybe into the early '90s, was as good as it gets. A certain spirit was built up that's hard to find, so people didn't mind busting ass.

Are there any copy desks like that now? Just wondering where ........?

The Herald's everything (sports, news, etc), was as good as it gets back then.

 

[Hawkeyes4Ever]

For what it's worth, Frank Ridgeway's perspective matched what I saw in Miami.

Everyone works hard these days, but nobody wants to work crazy.

It was crazy shirt down there. Four copy editors on the desk that night. For a major paper with big-time beats.

 

[Pi]

Bill Passonno is a god-damned genius. I've seen him do the work of four men.