• Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Beware, Trentonian offering jobs that don't exist

Status
Not open for further replies.
C'mon he's made a huge impact already. I mean where else could a Trenton reader find out that Gary Matthews supports his son?
 
PHINJ said:
Though he was reviled by many of the old sports guys, Sandy Schwartz deflected a lot of the Jelenic bullshirt.

Wasn't there still an abnormally high turnover of SEs under Schwartz?
 
Certainly there was. It was bad, but Bonfield made it doubly bad.

Schwartz knew Jelenic was off his rocker and blew off a lot of his complaints and argued with him vehemently on others. Bonfield actually thought Jelenic had legitimate beefs with the sports department and didn't have the spine to ever tell Jelenic he was overreacting.

(This is chronicled quite accurately in "Tabloid From heck"; note that the executive editor believed that the sports department was far stronger than news during his second tenure, but Jelenic only had complaints about the sports department.

If you want further proof of this, keep in mind that no one was fired for the "ROASTED NUTS" headline.)

Also, the sports editors during Schwartz's era were, on average, more talented and more accomplished than the SEs who followed (there are some notable exceptions). Some of them simply left for better opportunities.

The number of Trentonian employees (all editorial positions) hired under Schwartz who moved on to 250K+ circ papers is probably around 30.

The number of Trentonian employees hired after Schwartz departed (1998) who moved on to 250K+ papers is approximately 0 (I could be forgetting someone).
 
Frank_Ridgeway said:
PHINJ said:
Though he was reviled by many of the old sports guys, Sandy Schwartz deflected a lot of the Jelenic bullshirt.

Wasn't there still an abnormally high turnover of SEs under Schwartz?

Abnormal for JRC? What'd he do, go through eight in three weeks?

PHINJ said:
I'm not sure how I should answer that question.

Let's say that if I were in that position I would make sure that I had the skills needed to do the job, not take out an ad to find someone to do the things I can't do.

The problem with the whole JRC setup is that you need someone to filter out the bullshirt. Lots of CEOs are demanding assholes but most places have some highly paid publisher or editor who deflects a certain amount of the bullshirt.

At JRC, everyone is so scared shirtless of Jelenic it comes straight down from CEO to the desk. That's a ridiculous situation.

It's not Jelenic that calls the sports editor at 9:15 a.m., it's the editor or the publisher or a JRC flunkie who calls the sports editor.

Though he was reviled by many of the old sports guys, Sandy Schwartz deflected a lot of the Jelenic bullshirt. That's why Jelenic went out of his way to find a total sycophant for his next publisher(s). It's why Barbati is gone, too.

If the accounts in "Tabloid from heck" and other sources are accurate, at The Trentonian at least, the fiery 9:15 a.m. phone calls are often enough from The Man Himself.

Back to the current ASE listing:

1) Does this job exist? If so, who's getting fired to vacate it?

2) If it doesn't currently exist, how long do you think it will exist after Bracey gets launched (as noted by many, probably a matter of weeks) ??

boots said:
Perhaps these changes may be whats needed at the rag. I haven't seen much imporvement in the paper since he took over but I want to see better writing, editing, style and clarity. You can't make a tug boat into an ocean liner.
I'm anxiously watching over the next few weeks to see what happens. A big test for him will be the paper's coverage of the Final Four. That may be an opportunity for him to make the section shine.

Oh yeah, it's a real test of a sports section's mettle to see how they plug in wire stories. A real chance to knock one out of the park.
 
Aaron had a weekly "Media Guy" column at the Courier. Don't know if he wanted to do more, but he had his weekly page. Just my two cents. Carry on.
 
If the accounts in "Tabloid from heck" and other sources are accurate, at The Trentonian at least, the fiery 9:15 a.m. phone calls are often enough from The Man Himself.

Raffaele got calls as the editor, not the sports editor.
 
boots said:
We need to get off of this JRC horse. It's a job. Aaron, who is a nice guy, is tyring to do it as best as he can. He's in a lose-lose situation but he's making the best of it. Many of you out there wish you were in his shoes. As difficult as jobs are to come by these days, I'm glad to see that someone like him is employed. Wish him well and pray that he doesn't become a JRC asshole.

then dismount and quit reading the thread jackass.
 
My special daddy wanted me to let all of you know how happy his heart has become thanks to the love and support of new Journal Register Company visionary Aaron Bracy. On the unforgettable night of October 30 in the year 1943, Gus Bodnar scored a goal just 15 seconds into his first NHL game as his lovely, lovely Maple Leafs defeated the American-based Rangers 5-2. Now 64 years later Aaron is scoring a goal in my lovely daddy's oversized heart faster than any Journal Register Company newcomer ever has before.

younggus.jpg
head_COLUMNISTS34.jpg


Boots, you truly are a precious human being and my entire family wants to share with you our abundant love. Thank you, thank you for supporting my special daddy's newest friend, Aaron. Your brave support against the attacks from these JRC haters will provide Aaron with extra strength as he rapidly makes his way from JRC newcomer to my special daddy's right-hand man in world record time. Consider yourself an honorary Canadian, Boots.

My lovely daddy's Canadian-born skin has been glowing so much with the news of Aaron's visionary tactics in his new career with Journal Register Company. In fact he actually is so impressed with Aaron that he suggested that dear friend Ramón shave his head to show support for Aaron. I don't know why Daddy keeps touching Ramón's new bald head but I guess maybe it is for luck or to make sure there is no lice.

Please, join Boots in his adamant support of Aaron, a wonderful man and JRC rising star. On behalf of my entire family, much love and kindness is wished upon all of you.
 
I've gotten some feedback and clarifications so let me update the list:

Ted Rodgers
Doug Jacobs (2 terms)
Chris D'Amico
Larry O'Rourke
John Buonoro
Laura Ann Eckert
Mike Raffaele (2 terms)
Rich Timlen
Storm Gifford
Ted Holmlund
Eric Barrow
Chris Baud
Jim Davis
Mark Schiele
James Marshall
Dave Lariviere
Tom Jacobs
Ron D'Orazio (2 terms)

Carl Barbati
Chris Collins (2 terms)
Aaron Bracy

Craig Schmidt and Eric Ladley were not officially sports editors or even acting sports editors but they were responsible for some sort of supervision over the department.
 
(Apologies. Kind of an inside joke)

Quiz time for those at 600 Perry St.:

1. Who is Phil Nelson? Please, go in detail. Puhleeze.

2. What is Joan Galler's alias? And why do you think that's her alias? And this is just me asking, has her aunt died yet?

3. How many backbreaking hours does Jeff Edelstein work per week?

4. What's Jack Knarr's favorite word? ( And no, cocksucker and motherforker don't count)

5. What's Sammy's last name?

6. Has Paul threatened to kill the publisher lately?

7. Have you beaten the new sports editor to a pulp with the wiffle ball bat yet? Muting the TV is reason enough. Just askin'.

8. Why is Murray such a jackass moron? Is there a decent guy underneath it all? Your thoughts.

9. On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad do you hate Matt? Uhh .. not the old copy editor.

10. What do the letters L.A. stand for? (No, lazy ass doesn't count)
 
Boy this thread brings back memories...

The number of Trentonian employees hired after Schwartz departed (1998) who moved on to 250K+ papers is approximately 0 (I could be forgetting someone).

Want to clear up one thing...at least one reporter has recently moved on to bigger and better things from the Trentonian. Trymaine D. Lee was a news reporter there a few years back. He went to New Orleans and now onto the New York Times.

It's not all rotting cesspool...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Back
Top