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Chris Jones on Jason Whitlock

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Evil biscuit (aka Chris_L) said:
Hemingway was a journalist and his writings hold up very well after all these years.

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We're not comparing Jones to F Scott Fitzgerald and Hemingway now though - are we?

No, just taking Whitlock's dig to its logical conclusion.

I think that daily journalists need to insure their shoulders, because surely there is going to be a rash of injuries from all of the patting themselves on the back that goes on.
 
Evil biscuit (aka Chris_L) said:
Hemingway was a journalist and his writings hold up very well after all these years.

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We're not comparing Jones to F Scott Fitzgerald and Hemingway now though - are we?

Hemingway smoked cigars with Castro. Jonesy smoked dope with Ricky Williams.
I think that compares favorably
 
Evil biscuit (aka Chris_L) said:
heck, many accomplished writers have little skill in tight, concise communication. Take away their plethora of editors, give them three or four hours to craft a well-constructed argument rather than three to four months to pen a single story and you'd be shocked at how poorly they write and the immaturity of their critical thinking.

Was Aaron the only other to see this as a big dig at Jones by Whitlock?

Had not thought of that until you pointed out but entirely possible and well done at that.

This is a great line:

heck, many accomplished writers have little skill in tight, concise communication. Take away their plethora of editors, give them three or four hours to craft a well-constructed argument rather than three to four months to pen a single story and you'd be shocked at how poorly they write and the immaturity of their critical thinking.

They'd sound as disingenuous and inarticulate as Antonio Cromartie, the cuss-word-happy Jets cornerback who I called out earlier this week for undermining his union's labor negotiations because he has nine kids by eight women (that we know of).
 
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other. Just think of the reader and get to the point.
 
YGBFKM said:
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other. Just think of the reader and get to the point.

I'm not sure if you were really thinking of Hemingway if you were thinking of flowery language at the same time.
 
Evil biscuit (aka Chris_L) said:
YGBFKM said:
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other. Just think of the reader and get to the point.

I'm not sure if you were really thinking of Hemingway if you were thinking of flowery language at the same time.

I was thinking of writers who got to the point without describing every thought or scene in 1,000 words.
 
YGBFKM said:
Evil biscuit (aka Chris_L) said:
YGBFKM said:
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other. Just think of the reader and get to the point.

I'm not sure if you were really thinking of Hemingway if you were thinking of flowery language at the same time.

I was thinking of writers who got to the point without describing every thought or scene in 1,000 words.

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YGBFKM said:
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other.

Not the really good ones. You don't even know their names. Being a great long-form writer should be like being an umpire or a referee.
 
deck Whitman said:
YGBFKM said:
This thread made me think of Hemingway the other day. I read many of the well-known long-form writers and it's anything but an economy of words. It's almost as if all the flowery language and drawn-out scenes are part of an ego-stroking code they're speaking to each other.

Not the really good ones. You don't even know their names. Being a great long-form writer should be like being an umpire or a referee.

Please name couple of really good long-form writers who strive to be like an umpire or referee, whose name no one knows..
 
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