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how do i make a veteran meet deadline without being a jerk?

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Fredrick said:
EGM, tell us what tactic works. Since you seem like a good person who has a clue unlike some of the cut throat sports editors who think they are god's gift to low paying jobs, I am assuming you did the right thing and had a civil discussion with this person who you said is a valuable member of the staff. To you cutthroats ... continue to be jerks and realize you are really tough guys bossing people around in this lowpaying profession. Congrats EGM. Tell us how he met the deadline.

Some of you hardasses should look at yourselves in the mirror. Paper trails, being assholes, grow up and quit being management.

I thought I was god's gift to low paying jobs. Or was that low paying jobs were god's gift to me?
 
i'll make a bet that the guy is just pacifying egm.

i'll bet in another month, he's missing as many deadlines as he's ever missed.

Look the reason I took the stance I did is egm said he was a valuable employee and this was his one problem. There were a bunch of hardass comments which made me believe a lot of you think all reporters are lazy bastards and you take management's view. Let me tell you, he said the veteran was well respected and did a great job. You don't hop on that guy's ass. If you do you are a cutthroat asshole with way too high a view of yourself. Hey we are all replaceable in this lowpaying profession even you management types. Get a grip. HE IS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THAT STAFF. You treat him with respect. Then if he doesn't respond, OK, turn on the hardass methods. GEEZ.
 
Fredrick said:
i'll make a bet that the guy is just pacifying egm.

i'll bet in another month, he's missing as many deadlines as he's ever missed.

Look the reason I took the stance I did is egm said he was a valuable employee and this was his one problem. There were a bunch of hardass comments which made me believe a lot of you think all reporters are lazy bastards and you take management's view. Let me tell you, he said the veteran was well respected and did a great job. You don't hop on that guy's ass. If you do you are a cutthroat asshole with way too high a view of yourself. Hey we are all replaceable in this lowpaying profession even you management types. Get a grip. HE IS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THAT STAFF. You treat him with respect. Then if he doesn't respond, OK, turn on the hardass methods. GEEZ.

i don't know what type of shop you work in, but if i was 20 minutes late every night at any place i've worked in the past, i'd be fired.

if one person is making me 20 minutes late every stinking time he left the office, we'd have a forking problem, period.

how is that so hard to grasp?
 
Fredrick said:
i'll make a bet that the guy is just pacifying egm.

i'll bet in another month, he's missing as many deadlines as he's ever missed.

Look the reason I took the stance I did is egm said he was a valuable employee and this was his one problem. There were a bunch of hardass comments which made me believe a lot of you think all reporters are lazy bastards and you take management's view. Let me tell you, he said the veteran was well respected and did a great job. You don't hop on that guy's ass. If you do you are a cutthroat asshole with way too high a view of yourself. Hey we are all replaceable in this lowpaying profession even you management types. Get a grip. HE IS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THAT STAFF. You treat him with respect. Then if he doesn't respond, OK, turn on the hardass methods. GEEZ.
Tom Petty said:
Fredrick said:
i'll make a bet that the guy is just pacifying egm.

i'll bet in another month, he's missing as many deadlines as he's ever missed.

Look the reason I took the stance I did is egm said he was a valuable employee and this was his one problem. There were a bunch of hardass comments which made me believe a lot of you think all reporters are lazy bastards and you take management's view. Let me tell you, he said the veteran was well respected and did a great job. You don't hop on that guy's ass. If you do you are a cutthroat asshole with way too high a view of yourself. Hey we are all replaceable in this lowpaying profession even you management types. Get a grip. HE IS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THAT STAFF. You treat him with respect. Then if he doesn't respond, OK, turn on the hardass methods. GEEZ.

i don't know what type of shop you work in, but if i was 20 minutes late every night at any place i've worked in the past, i'd be fired.

if one person is making me 20 minutes late every stinking time he left the office, we'd have a forking problem, period.

how is that so hard to grasp?
Two thoughts.
Respect is not given. It is earned.
No manager is going to go down with the ship. If someone is making me look bad by being late, and its a choice between him or me, him gets fired.
 
how is that so hard to grasp?

What is so hard to grasp about the fact all we've heard about the veteran writer is he IS VALUABLE?
I'm not saying you are this way, but the fact you can't grasp it makes me wonder if you are one of these clueless management assholes. The guy has a problem so step on him!! Even though he is "respected" and valuable in the words of the SE out there.
To many editor types ... they simply do not care if a guy is valuable or has been there 20 productive years. Oh he's late writing the first 2 weeks of prep football season.
So jump his ass before you get yours jumped.
Bullshirt. The man is valuable. You talk to him in a nice way. If he balks or shows attitude which is unlikely considering how respected he is, then you change your tone.
The management types on here made it clear this once or twice transgression was worth shirtting on a VALUABLE member of the staff. What's so hard to understand?
This business is going to heck partly because of the horrid way people are treated.
Show some fricking compassion. Oh wait this is "journalism" there is no compassion in this lowpaying, pay no overtime, profession.
 
Fredrick said:
how is that so hard to grasp?

What is so hard to grasp about the fact all we've heard about the veteran writer is he IS VALUABLE?
I'm not saying you are this way, but the fact you can't grasp it makes me wonder if you are one of these clueless management assholes. The guy has a problem so step on him!! Even though he is "respected" and valuable in the words of the SE out there.
To many editor types ... they simply do not care if a guy is valuable or has been there 20 productive years. Oh he's late writing the first 2 weeks of prep football season.
So jump his ass before you get yours jumped.
Bullshirt. The man is valuable. You talk to him in a nice way. If he balks or shows attitude which is unlikely considering how respected he is, then you change your tone.
The management types on here made it clear this once or twice transgression was worth shirtting on a VALUABLE member of the staff. What's so hard to understand?
This business is going to heck partly because of the horrid way people are treated.
Show some fricking compassion. Oh wait this is "journalism" there is no compassion in this lowpaying, pay no overtime, profession.
Fred good points. Bottom line is NO ONE is irreplaceable.
 
Fredrick said:
how is that so hard to grasp?

What is so hard to grasp about the fact all we've heard about the veteran writer is he IS VALUABLE?
I'm not saying you are this way, but the fact you can't grasp it makes me wonder if you are one of these clueless management assholes. The guy has a problem so step on him!! Even though he is "respected" and valuable in the words of the SE out there.
To many editor types ... they simply do not care if a guy is valuable or has been there 20 productive years. Oh he's late writing the first 2 weeks of prep football season.
So jump his ass before you get yours jumped.
Bullshirt. The man is valuable. You talk to him in a nice way. If he balks or shows attitude which is unlikely considering how respected he is, then you change your tone.
The management types on here made it clear this once or twice transgression was worth shirtting on a VALUABLE member of the staff. What's so hard to understand?
This business is going to heck partly because of the horrid way people are treated.
Show some fricking compassion. Oh wait this is "journalism" there is no compassion in this lowpaying, pay no overtime, profession.

you are valuable if and only if you hit deadline. if you can't, you need to work at a weekly.

sorry to be the first person to inform you that journalism is a business.
 
you are valuable if and only if you hit deadline. if you can't, you need to work at a weekly.

sorry to be the first person to inform you that journalism is a business.

So you guys continue to not respond to my point that the guy is valuable. So shirt on anybody when they make one mistake. His 20 years mean nothing. Oh he's a reporter so he's a lazy biscuit. You obviously care nothing about his 20 years of outstanding service. He missed deadline the FIRST TWO WEEKS of the prep football season so jump his ass. Get on him. That's how Gannett trained me to do it by god! People are worthless pieces of shirt. Get on him now!!!
Respond to the fact people should be treated on an individual basis.
You Gannett types make it sound like his 20 years are nothing.
The SE said he was valuable. Why can't you respond to that? Have you been trained that all reporters are shirt??
Tell you what: If you are an editor it doesn't mean shirt. This business has no forking compassion.
You can't even respond to the fact this guy is valuable. You apparently are thinking: Oh, he missed deadline twice. For that I MUST REAM HIS ASS!!! That's what they taught me in Gannett management school.
All people are different and deserve to be treated on an individual basis.
 
Fredrick said:
you are valuable if and only if you hit deadline. if you can't, you need to work at a weekly.

sorry to be the first person to inform you that journalism is a business.

So you guys continue to not respond to my point that the guy is valuable. So shirt on anybody when they make one mistake. His 20 years mean nothing. Oh he's a reporter so he's a lazy biscuit. You obviously care nothing about his 20 years of outstanding service. He missed deadline the FIRST TWO WEEKS of the prep football season so jump his ass. Get on him. That's how Gannett trained me to do it by god! People are worthless pieces of shirt. Get on him now!!!
Respond to the fact people should be treated on an individual basis.
You Gannett types make it sound like his 20 years are nothing.
The SE said he was valuable. Why can't you respond to that? Have you been trained that all reporters are shirt??
Tell you what: If you are an editor it doesn't mean shirt. This business has no forking compassion.
You can't even respond to the fact this guy is valuable. You apparently are thinking: Oh, he missed deadline twice. For that I MUST REAM HIS ASS!!! That's what they taught me in Gannett management school.
All people are different and deserve to be treated on an individual basis.

blather on all you want, dog. but you're not valuable in this business if you can't hit deadline.

everything else that you're writing simply is mental masterbation.
 
How do you know he can't forking hit deadline? The guy missed it twice in 20 years. Oh yeah ... that's two times too many at MY PAPER. Hilarious. To all the cutthroat managers: Keep on cutting throats and not treating people's cases on an individual basis. You'll be axed just like everybody else. So funny.
There are people out there that think missing deadline twice in 20 years is unacceptable. So funny. Fire away.
 
Think you're misreading something there. What was said was that the guy is really, really slow, and he had caused them to miss deadline two straight weeks.

That does not necessarily add up to he's only been late two times.
 
Fredrick said:
How do you know he can't forking hit deadline? The guy missed it twice in 20 years. Oh yeah ... that's two times too many at MY PAPER. Hilarious. To all the cutthroat managers: Keep on cutting throats and not treating people's cases on an individual basis. You'll be axed just like everybody else. So funny.
There are people out there that think missing deadline twice in 20 years is unacceptable. So funny. Fire away.

since you don't seem like the brightest bulb posting on this thread, i went back and copied the first paragraph of the original post:

"i have had my job as sports editor for a paper for about two months now. just last week we started our friday night high school football coverage. all my writers and photogs are great on deadline except for one guy. he has been with the paper for about 20 years and is really, really slow. he has kept us from meeting deadline two weeks in a row."

i'm starting to believe you either are the guy this thread is about or that you can't hit a deadline to save your ass, either.
 
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