how do i make a veteran meet deadline without being a jerk?

[Fredrick]

You forgot to include how he wrote how valuable the guy was.
Look ... you must be one of these sports editors who lump everybody together. I can't help you. You've been trained by Gannett to think all writers have no past. That today's assignment is the only assignment they've ever had. Judge them on a day to day basis. Step on them. Belittle them. This assignment is their first assignment. Make them feel uncomfortable.

Look pal ... I have never missed a deadline in my life and I'm damn good. I also know BAD EDITORS in this business and Gannett type of management that is helping ruin a once proud business. This SE said the guy was well respected and valuable. He missed a couple deadlines.
You apparently would read him the riot act. I would not.
I told you if upon explaining to him he needs to hit deadline he gave me guff I'd then yell at him.
Some of you don't care a bit the guy is a 20 year valuable employee

And lay off my situation. I'm a forking good writer and can write 40 inches of quality material faster than you can drink a cup of coffee or diet coke.
Lay off the personal attacks.
I'm part of this lowpaying piece of shirt profession just like you are.

 

[Tom Petty]

You forgot to include how he wrote how valuable the guy was.
Look ... you must be one of these sports editors who lump everybody together. I can't help you. You've been trained by Gannett to think all writers have no past. That today's assignment is the only assignment they've ever had. Judge them on a day to day basis. Step on them. Belittle them. This assignment is their first assignment. Make them feel uncomfortable.

Look pal ... I have never missed a deadline in my life and I'm damn good. I also know BAD EDITORS in this business and Gannett type of management that is helping ruin a once proud business. This SE said the guy was well respected and valuable. He missed a couple deadlines.
You apparently would read him the riot act. I would not.
I told you if upon explaining to him he needs to hit deadline he gave me guff I'd then yell at him.
Some of you don't care a bit the guy is a 20 year valuable employee

And lay off my situation. I'm a forking good writer and can write 40 inches of quality material faster than you can drink a cup of coffee or diet coke.
Lay off the personal attacks.
I'm part of this lowpaying piece of shirt profession just like you are.

look, dog, i can't respect a person who's unable to hit deadline. i might like the person, but i can't respect them as a journalist, just like i can't respect a math teacher who can't add or subtract.

and nice try on the gannett thing, but that's a swing and a miss ... and 40 inches, eh? good for you. but i'll settle for 15-18.

 

[Fredrick]

Like I said, I can't help you. Obviously you've been trained to treat everybody the same. This article is their first article. 20 years mean nothing. God help you. If you are this type of editor you are hopeless.

Uh ... on my 40 inches how do you know I didn't mean a great game story and notebook.
Dumbass. I'll give you 40 inches in less than an hour. Oh sorry ... that's too long to write in your shop.

Look pal ... I am good and there's nothing you can say that would tell me or all the competitors I've forking driven to drink otherwise.

If you can't re-read the first post and realize this SE is a compassionate SE and trying to handle it the right way, you are hopeless.

Bottom line is this reporter is a 20 year valued employee. You never refer to that which leads me to believe you could forking care less about VALUED employees with 20 years of experience. Just admit that for me and I can go to bed, OK dog???

 

[Tom Petty]

Like I said, I can't help you. Obviously you've been trained to treat everybody the same. This article is their first article. 20 years mean nothing. God help you. If you are this type of editor you are hopeless.

Uh ... on my 40 inches how do you know I didn't mean a great game story and notebook.
Dumbass. I'll give you 40 inches in less than an hour. Oh sorry ... that's too long to write in your shop.

Look pal ... I am good and there's nothing you can say that would tell me or all the competitors I've forking driven to drink otherwise.

If you can't re-read the first post and realize this SE is a compassionate SE and trying to handle it the right way, you are hopeless.

Bottom line is this reporter is a 20 year valued employee. You never refer to that which leads me to believe you could forking care less about 20 yeared valued employees. Just admit that for me and I can go to bed, OK dog???

no, i give each and every person the respect they've earned, starting from the moment i walk through the door for the first time, dog. i don't expect someone to respect me because of my resume. i expect folks to respect me because of my work and how i interact with them.

and wow, i'm impressed by your need to tell all of us how good you are. you have a little inferiority complex going, don't you? i'm sure you're a gem to have roaming around the office.

 

[Fredrick]

You won't answer my questions so I guess we won't be able to have a discussion.
Look pal ... if you are a sports editor and I am assuming you are one, let me the first to tell you you are not god. In fact I am as good or better than you. As far as bragging? I am talking to you 1 on 1. I could care less about the others on here. I'm bragging to you because you said I probably couldn't meet a deadline.
You won't answer my points so I am left to ASSUME (maybe a bad assumption, I dunno for sure) that you are a sports editor who has his staff quivering.
Look buddy. Let me tell you. From all indications you are another one of these corportate gannett types (gannett deserves no capitalization) who could care less about one proving himself/herself throughout the years.
This reporter was deemed valuable by the SE. You won't address my comments questions so go back to being king of your sports section. Treat everybody the same.
You know nothing about me so go back to bossing around your people.
You are the same nothing in this profession that I am. You can be fired tomorrow just like me. So go back to your kingdom. But don't you dare call me out pal.
I never made it personal; you did.

I commend the SE who started this thread for showing compassion in wondering how to handle this situation.
Congrats dude, you are a good one; don't let these corporate forks get to you.

 

[Tom Petty]

freddie - there's no reason to procede with a discussion if you can't understand the bottom line that hitting a deadline is one of the most important tasks we face on a nightly basis, dog. you obviously work at a weekly if you can't respect that fact.

 

[jps]

thanks for all the advice.

And another tip: if you send him anything about this in writing, please make sure you capitalize correctly. It'll give you a little more credibility.

says who?

 

[jps]

I think freddy has an issue with gannett, by the way ... didn't count, but in 19 posts I think I've read it about a dozen times at least.

and freddy, tp is one of the best posters on this site, one of the best guys I've met in this business and one of the best se's out there. just sayin. it would be wise for you to actually know who you're talking to before you go off blathering like a fool.

and I'm damn good at my job, too, actually, and I've had to tell my writers to get their shirt in. it's part of the job. it is what we are paid to do. and no one is saying to throw your stapler at the guy's head for chrissakes. they are saying to tell the guy to do what he gets paid to do.

every minute you're late, you are costing your company money. by the time you hit, say, 30 minutes, depending on the size of the circulation, you have potentially cost your company multiple thousands of dollars. I'd explain the math, but I don't think you'll get it. probably just think I was being mean. but saving money matters, especially in lean times. so when people are out there losing their jobs because there isn't enough money coming in, I think I'm ok with someone being a little stern now and then in order to avoid losing money. for a gamer. coming from a guy who should know better.

 

[jps]

and to actually add something to the original post ... tell old guy that he's got 45 minutes from end of game to get it done. that's it. give him a length. 12 inches. 15 inches. whatever. he goes over, cut it to fit. if he can't get you 12-15 in 45 minutes, he needs to start looking into agate clerk.

and this is a gamer. 90 percent of them are not all that great anyway. it's the nature of the thing. just write it, get it in and don't read it the next morning - you'll just wonder why the heck you wrote it the way you did.

 

[shotglass]

Frankly, he lost me when he started talking about turning out 40 inches of copy.

That had better be the gamer on the second coming.

 

[Bubbler]

You won't answer my questions so I guess we won't be able to have a discussion.
Look pal ... if you are a sports editor and I am assuming you are one, let me the first to tell you you are not god. In fact I am as good or better than you. As far as bragging? I am talking to you 1 on 1. I could care less about the others on here. I'm bragging to you because you said I probably couldn't meet a deadline.
You won't answer my points so I am left to ASSUME (maybe a bad assumption, I dunno for sure) that you are a sports editor who has his staff quivering.
Look buddy. Let me tell you. From all indications you are another one of these corportate gannett types (gannett deserves no capitalization) who could care less about one proving himself/herself throughout the years.
This reporter was deemed valuable by the SE. You won't address my comments questions so go back to being king of your sports section. Treat everybody the same.
You know nothing about me so go back to bossing around your people.
You are the same nothing in this profession that I am. You can be fired tomorrow just like me. So go back to your kingdom. But don't you dare call me out pal.
I never made it personal; you did.

I commend the SE who started this thread for showing compassion in wondering how to handle this situation.
Congrats dude, you are a good one; don't let these corporate forks get to you.

You've lost your mind before all of us.

 

[Fredrick]

As far as the issue ... I guess I'd like to hear more from the original poster. You all don't wish to discuss the individual here. If a veteran reporter is respected and does a good job and has a track record at the paper he deserves to be approached differently than somebody who is lousy.
None of you have backed me on that so I am left to assume you are sports editors trained the wrong way. You are not treating this as a people business. You are treating it as a cutthroat yell at the guy, get rid of the guy if he can't hit deadline business. We can easily replace him.
I call bullshirt on that, sorry. This is a people business and many SE's and management forks have turned it into something else. It's one of the main reasons right now the business is a mess. You all won't even consider the possibility I am right so for me the discussion is over until I hear from the original poster again.