I thought the Bartman doc was going to be part of 30 for 30

[RickStain]

No, it's lame and nerdy. The majority are what we call "normal people."

But it's still true that some people would not have gone for it.

 

[cjericho]

I sure as heck know that I would've gone for that foul ball, and I would have never even given a thought to the idea that Moises Alou might be coming over to try and catch it as well.

And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.

Shaggy, I've been waiting for someone to say that because I remember when certain posters here back in 2003 said that "I would have never gone after that foul ball."

To those who said that line, they are full of shirt and forking liars.

All of us would have reached out to snag a foul ball in any game, playoffs or not. Yeah, Bartman and the others were trying to snag foul balls out there in that area all night. It's what fans do at baseballs games. Anyone who says otherwise are fooling themselves.

Take that and shove it up your ass. I've been to games *before* the Bartman incident and made a plan ahead of time to back off of fly balls when the team I'm fanboi-ing for is trying to catch them. It's a nerdy thing to think about, but there are nerds out there.

Would most people have gone for the ball? Sure. Would everyone? No.

Agree with that.

 

[Bubbler]

No, it's lame and nerdy. The majority are what we call "normal people."

But it's still true that some people would not have gone for it.

That's great, but what's the point in boasting that you wouldn't have? Much less telling someone to "shove it up your ass".

You wouldn't have gone for the ball, you would've had a plan ... good for forking you.

 

[YGBFKM]

I think admitting to attending Cubs games on purpose removes any air of superiority.

 

[RickStain]

No, it's lame and nerdy. The majority are what we call "normal people."

But it's still true that some people would not have gone for it.

That's great, but what's the point in boasting that you wouldn't have? Much less telling someone to "shove it up your ass".

You wouldn't have gone for the ball, you would've had a plan ... good for forking you.

He said that people who say they wouldn't have gone for it are forking liars. I don't know about you, but if I get called a forking liar, then I'm going to respond in a similar fashion.

 

[Gator]

RickStain is really Jim Cuthbert.

What I kept thinking about last night was this: With the exception of a few, nobody really knows what kind of a life Steve Bartman is living. He has this 'mystique' to all of us, but maybe he's just living his life. Just because he hasn't done any interviews doesn't mean he's a recluse. As mentioned in the doc, I doubt he's living in a 10x10 apartment. He's still in Chicago and I'm sure it's quite easy to blend in there.

Here's the other thought I had: What if, instead of a scrawny, dorky white guy, it was a jacked, 6-foot-5, 240-pound beast of a person? I'm sure Alou would have given the same reaction, because that was his instinct, but I don't think fans would have been tossing beers his way. I think Bartman's overall appearance lended itself to the ridicule.

 

[Lugnuts]

Yes. Before all this happened, Bartman WANTED to be on TV. He's not a recluse by nature. After seeing that, I'm realizing he's not the guy we have collectively made him out to be in our minds. I do think Gibney should have played it up more.

I disagree and I thought that was a sort of cheap shot on Gibney's part.

Whoa, whoa, whoa... it's Gibney's job to document what happened, right? Not leave stuff on the cutting room floor because it doesn't fit a script. Or our script of who we think Steve Bartman is. I do think Gibney half-assed that find because he wanted his film to be sympathetic toward Bartman.

But how is showing that video "taking a shot" at him? Yes, he wanted to be on TV. What's wrong with that?! (Said the girl who wanted to be on TV for a living.) Seriously... I thought it was a little nugget... a little character reveal about a mysterious person. To me it said: Don't think you know what kind of a guy Bartman is. You don't really know him.

 

[Shoeless Joe]

 

[Lugnuts]

One of my all-time favorite movies is The Fugitive, and when I think of Bartman, I always think of Harrison Ford marching in the St. Paddy's Day Parade in the middle of downtown Chicago.

 

[BTExpress]

I don't know how you mention Buckner and don't mention Bob Stanley's wild pitch that allowed the tying run to score with two outs.

Because there is something in the Lowest Common Denominator that won't let it acknowledge more than one scapegoat (or boogeyman) at a time.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

I sure as heck know that I would've gone for that foul ball, and I would have never even given a thought to the idea that Moises Alou might be coming over to try and catch it as well.

And the douchebag who was laughing about harassing Bartman that night needs to get his ass kicked.

Shaggy, I've been waiting for someone to say that because I remember when certain posters here back in 2003 said that "I would have never gone after that foul ball."

To those who said that line, they are full of shirt and forking liars.

All of us would have reached out to snag a foul ball in any game, playoffs or not. Yeah, Bartman and the others were trying to snag foul balls out there in that area all night. It's what fans do at baseballs games. Anyone who says otherwise are fooling themselves.

Take that and shove it up your ass. I've been to games *before* the Bartman incident and made a plan ahead of time to back off of fly balls when the team I'm fanboi-ing for is trying to catch them. It's a nerdy thing to think about, but there are nerds out there.

Would most people have gone for the ball? Sure. Would everyone? No.

How do you make a plan to avoid catching a fly ball? Do you draw a blueprint or put it up on a chalkboard with you as the X and the ball as the O?

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

RickStain is really Jim Cuthbert.

What I kept thinking about last night was this: With the exception of a few, nobody really knows what kind of a life Steve Bartman is living. He has this 'mystique' to all of us, but maybe he's just living his life. Just because he hasn't done any interviews doesn't mean he's a recluse. As mentioned in the doc, I doubt he's living in a 10x10 apartment. He's still in Chicago and I'm sure it's quite easy to blend in there.

Here's the other thought I had: What if, instead of a scrawny, dorky white guy, it was a jacked, 6-foot-5, 240-pound beast of a person? I'm sure Alou would have given the same reaction, because that was his instinct, but I don't think fans would have been tossing beers his way. I think Bartman's overall appearance lended itself to the ridicule.

I don't think a guy could have been more badly dressed for his moment in the limelight than Bartman was.