Jemele Hill interview on thebiglead.com

[Pringle]

So personal snipes by colleagues on a journalist's web site is all part of her growth as a writer? Gotcha.

No. But fair criticism - even harsh criticism - of her work is. And comments she makes in a published interview are.

 

[dooley_womack1]

OK, Ace, why do you feel the need to defend her to the death? Surely you can't say her writing is terribly good. And I didn't ghost-write her blog entry on oral sex; she freely did that all by her lonesome, and should be accountable. And when you are a columnist, yes, you should be accountable for your personal blog, since a columnist essentially sells him/herself. And her personal blog made it that much tougher for all female reporters. She invoked Kindred in thebiglead interview. Would Kindred have blogged about how he'd pash his orals?

 

[Double Down]

Pringle, the only people who get more ship on SportsJournalists.com than Jemele are Albom, Lupica, Chris Berman and Stuart Scott. That's it. That's the the Top 5. (Michael Silver, probably, comes in sixth.) But in the top five, we have four people who are among the most ten recognizable people in sports journalism, and then Jemele Hill, a 20-something female African American columnist, third in the batting order at her paper, in a city with ONE professional sports franchise.

It's forking bullship.

The Orlando Sentinel is not, despite what some posters seem to believe, the greatest goddamn newspaper in the whole goddamn world. In fact, it's a great paper for its size, and it does a lot of good, daring stuff, and has had a lot of talented people move on after they made their mark there. But the people who constantly whine about her saying how she doesn't deserve that job need to get over their bitterness, because all it convinces me is that they're not talented enough to work at a place like Orlando anyway (which, as I've pointed out, ain't even the top of the food chain) and their jealous of the breaks she's gotten. I don't know her, never even met her, but I sure am tired of sports journalists acting like a great injustice has occured because they don't like THE THIRD COLUMNIST IN ORLANDO.

Upset that someone got some breaks you didn't because she's black and female? Here's some advice: Work harder.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Pringle, the only people who get more ship on SportsJournalists.com than Jemele are Albom, Lupica, Chris Berman and Stuart Scott. That's it. That's the the Top 5. (Michael Silver, probably, comes in sixth.) But in the top five, we have four people who are among the most ten recognizable people in sports journalism, and then Jemele Hill, a 20-something female African American columnist, third in the batting order at her paper, in a city with ONE professional sports franchise.

It's forking bullship.

The Orlando Sentinel is not, despite what some posters seem to believe, the greatest goddamn newspaper in the whole goddamn world. In fact, it's a great paper for its size, and it does a lot of good, daring stuff, and has had a lot of talented people move on after they made their mark there. But the people who constantly whine about her saying how she doesn't deserve that job need to get over their bitterness, because all it convinces me is that they're not talented enough to work at a place like Orlando anyway (which, as I've pointed out, ain't even the top of the food chain) and their jealous of the breaks she's gotten. I don't know her, never even met her, but I sure am tired of sports journalists acting like a great injustice has occured because they don't like THE THIRD COLUMNIST IN ORLANDO.

Upset that someone got some breaks you didn't because she's black and female? Here's some advice: Work harder.

Yeah, like I lost a job to Jemele Hill. :

 

[Ace]

OK, Ace, why do you feel the need to defend her to the death? Surely you can't say her writing is terribly good. And I didn't ghost-write her blog entry on oral sex; she freely did that all by her lonesome, and should be accountable. And when you are a columnist, yes, you should be accountable for your personal blog, since a columnist essentially sells him/herself. And her personal blog made it that much tougher for all female reporters. She invoked Kindred in thebiglead interview. Would Kindred have blogged about how he'd pash his orals?

I haven't even ever met her. I just think she gets a lot of mean ship on here for stuff that doesn't have anything to do with how she does her job.

 

[gridiron]

All that said, Jemele is so right about one thing: There were/are plenty of cowards willing to joke to your face, and talk ship about you behind your back. Whatever her talents -- and I do think she's talented -- she's had to put up with way more than her share of bullship here at SportsJournalists.com and elsewhere, and that's too bad. She's made some mistakes, yes, and that Sexton column was probably one, but keep in mind she's also the third columnist in a city with one professional sports franchise.

That's just what I don't understand: how many of us could even NAME the third columnist in most cities the size of Orlando? Yet people here spend tremendous amounts of energy tearing down Jemele at every opportunity. In the interest of full disclosure, I know Jemele and consider her a casual friend. But putting that aside, I can't understand the preoccupation and outright hatred that surrounds the very mention of her name.

Get a life.

 

[Pringle]

Upset that someone got some breaks you didn't because she's black and female? Here's some advice: Work harder.

How did I know that's what it was going to get around to.

 

[hypocritealert]

Pringle: You are a bitter disgrace.
And this thread should be shut down. It serves no purpose other than to let tarts and phonies like Pringle vent because they were pashed over for positions she got.
And 21: you should know better than to join in.

 

[Pringle]

Pringle: You are a bitter disgrace.
And this thread should be shut down. It serves no purpose other than to let tarts and phonies like Pringle vent because they were pashed over for positions she got.
And 21: you should know better than to join in.

Hypocrite: A "bitter disgrace." That's ridiculous. All I've said is that Hill should be open to criticism just like anyone else.

And let's drop the ashumption that anyone who criticizes - or in my case, says it's OK to criticize - someone else is doing paste-up at the weekly shopper.

In my mind, it would be more disgraceful and insulting to Jemele if she were protected from criticism by patronizing wannabe civil rights activists.

 

[Ace]

Pringle: You are a bitter disgrace.
And this thread should be shut down. It serves no purpose other than to let tarts and phonies like Pringle vent because they were pashed over for positions she got.
And 21: you should know better than to join in.

Hypocrite: A "bitter disgrace." That's ridiculous. All I've said is that Hill should be open to criticism just like anyone else.

And let's drop the ashumption that anyone who criticizes - or in my case, says it's OK to criticize - someone else is doing paste-up at the weekly shopper.

I didn't think you were a small-timer, Pringle. I was going with "tart."

 

[Sam Mills 51]

I remember when Jemele Hill was a young reporter with the News & Observer.

I haven't seen much of anything as proof that she's improved much. Sorry. Ready for Double Down's sound and fury ...

 

[Pringle]

I remember when Jemele Hill was a young reporter with the News & Observer.

I haven't seen much of anything as proof that she's improved much. Sorry. Ready for Double Down's sound and fury ...

Sam - People who have agendas of their own tend to see agendas in other people's opinions, as well, even where they don't exist.