LAT publisher who stood up to Tribune? Gone.

[deportes]

i know i'm probably outing myself, but just overheard that dean's left the building, bolting to the post.

 

[SF_Express]

i know i'm probably outing myself, but just overheard that dean's left the building, bolting to the post.

Well, you give us a location, not much beyond that. It's a big place. But you're serious? That's huge news if true.

 

[Ace]

I think people of integrity have to ask themselves in these situations: "Is the paper, its employees, its readers and the business in general better off having me here or having me leave so maybe someone less principled can take my place?" It's great to take a stand, but what do you achieve if you can't be there anymore? The cuts are going to be done with you or without you. With you, they are done by someone who knows and understands the paper, staff and city; without you they are done by someone brought in from Chicago. Which is better?

Frank is right.

Sometimes you have to take a stand. Other times you do it knowing you put your head on the block and your replacement will be all about pleasing the bean counters.

 

[SF_Express]

i know i'm probably outing myself, but just overheard that dean's left the building, bolting to the post.

A Times friend of mine just e-mailed me to say that as of an hour ago, this was definitely NOT the case.

Gittery times, man, even anonymously, be careful what you're posting here.

And if it turns out to be true, apologies. But doesn't sound like it...

 

[Gold]

I think people of integrity have to ask themselves in these situations: "Is the paper, its employees, its readers and the business in general better off having me here or having me leave so maybe someone less principled can take my place?" It's great to take a stand, but what do you achieve if you can't be there anymore? The cuts are going to be done with you or without you. With you, they are done by someone who knows and understands the paper, staff and city; without you they are done by someone brought in from Chicago. Which is better?

Interesting, and you have a legitimate point.

However, if you are in that position, at what point do you say "I can't be a part of this. Because of this circumstance, I can't be a leader in the newsroom."

I don't know the answer, but what effect can Baquet have now? It sounds like a lose-lose situation.

 

[sartrean]

I can't believe some of the responses on this thread. Not singling anyone out, but what the fork do you guys think? It isn't about news, it's about making a forking dollar. It hasn't changed any from last year, five years ago, 10 years ago, 50 years ago...

Money makes the world go round and everything else, values, integrity, ethics, takes a backseat.

I see why the guy stood up. If I were in that situation, I'd make those money-grubbing forkers fire me first, so I wouldn't be the one firing a bunch of other helpless suckers. I mean, there ain't no friggin altruism involved in the guy's decision. His "stand" was probably "gutlessness."

 

[awriter]

I think people of integrity have to ask themselves in these situations: "Is the paper, its employees, its readers and the business in general better off having me here or having me leave so maybe someone less principled can take my place?" It's great to take a stand, but what do you achieve if you can't be there anymore? The cuts are going to be done with you or without you. With you, they are done by someone who knows and understands the paper, staff and city; without you they are done by someone brought in from Chicago. Which is better?

I may be wrong, but I think he oversaw a few rounds of cuts and finally reached a breaking point. So it's not like he snapped the minute the company asked him to scale back.

 

[Editude]

When Johnson arrived, he was thought of as a Tribune lackey and became an ally to the newsroom. Baquet needed (needs) to balance what he could accomplish under another bean counter with taking an ambiguous stand, and the choice (for now) seems to be to keep fighting the Times-still-matters fight. I did hear, though, that the new publisher met with some tough talk among the top managers.

 

[Heywood Jablome]

Ya know, screw This Journalism Thing. I'm about a whisper away from getting out.

No one gives a damn about your work unless you miss deadline by, like, two minutes, and then they tell you that you have to be a better writer on deadline. This from My Great Management Team That I've Learned Not to Trust About Anything.

I haven't had a Thank You in more than two years, but these Fat Guys in Suits keep trying to find ways to insult me for not Buying Into Their Plan.

It's a shirtty little plan. And of course it totally sucks.

Here's what I say: Go fork Yourselves, Fat Guys in Suits. You are whoring out your city's newspaper for your own personal gain, and nothing else beyond that. Guess there's something to be said for Sucking the Corporate deck, but do you Fat Guys in Suits really like everyone else knowing that you Suck the Big Corporate deck?

Yeah, I'm pissed..............Props to the Studs in Los Angeles who told Tribune Company to take a flying fork.......Those guys have balls, and they also will have better jobs pretty quick.

 

[Bob_Jelloneck]

Ya know, screw This Journalism Thing. I'm about a whisper away from getting out.

No one gives a damn about your work unless you miss deadline by, like, two minutes, and then they tell you that you have to be a better writer on deadline. This from My Great Management Team That I've Learned Not to Trust About Anything.

I haven't had a Thank You in more than two years, but these Fat Guys in Suits keep trying to find ways to insult me for not Buying Into Their Plan.

It's a shirtty little plan. And of course it totally sucks.

Here's what I say: Go fork Yourselves, Fat Guys in Suits. You are whoring out your city's newspaper for your own personal gain, and nothing else beyond that. Guess there's something to be said for Sucking the Corporate deck, but do you Fat Guys in Suits really like everyone else knowing that you Suck the Big Corporate deck?

Yeah, I'm pissed..............Props to the Studs in Los Angeles who told Tribune Company to take a flying fork.......Those guys have balls, and they also will have better jobs pretty quick.

Son, you just have the wrong attitiude.

We'll straighten you out pretty quick.

 

[Gold]

Ya know, screw This Journalism Thing. I'm about a whisper away from getting out.

No one gives a damn about your work unless you miss deadline by, like, two minutes, and then they tell you that you have to be a better writer on deadline. This from My Great Management Team That I've Learned Not to Trust About Anything.

I haven't had a Thank You in more than two years, but these Fat Guys in Suits keep trying to find ways to insult me for not Buying Into Their Plan.

It's a shirtty little plan. And of course it totally sucks.

Here's what I say: Go fork Yourselves, Fat Guys in Suits. You are whoring out your city's newspaper for your own personal gain, and nothing else beyond that. Guess there's something to be said for Sucking the Corporate deck, but do you Fat Guys in Suits really like everyone else knowing that you Suck the Big Corporate deck?

Yeah, I'm pissed..............Props to the Studs in Los Angeles who told Tribune Company to take a flying fork.......Those guys have balls, and they also will have better jobs pretty quick.

You got to stop holding back your true feelings. Just go ahead and let it all out

 

[Heywood Jablome]

Somehow I know there are plenty of others who feel like I do.

Let it rip. This is the proper place for it. Keeps you from spewing at the NumbNuts who run these papers.