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Len Shapiro raises his pimp hand....

from the article... "It's as if there was never a period of time when things were right," said former Hurricane coach Butch Davis, who really did clean up the program during his tenure in the late 1990s and already is being mentioned Coker's possible successor. "It's like 25 consecutive years of thuggery."

But don't tell that to Woody Paige, a long-time Denver sports columnist who also has been a regular on the dreadful Cold Pizza the past several years. He called for Miami to place the football team on hiatus for several years. "If UM and its president and trustees really had any courage, they would make the football program go away," Paige said. (By the way, if ESPN and its president really had any courage, they would make the Cold Pizza go away, but that's a story for another day.)

I just wonder if Paige ever said the same about the rogue University of Colorado program several seasons ago, where rape was the major issue, as opposed to a brawl on the field.....


BINGO. Typical Woody Paige
 
ondeadline said:
I never got an answer. What does "raises his pimp hand" mean?

Per Mr. Whitlock, we can take it to mean: to discipline, to bring into line, to smack upside the head.
 
ondeadline, don't you get it? We're all supposed to latch into the inner-city vibe! It's the only way anyone under 35 can survive the soulless suburban wasteland.

I applaud Mr. Whitlock for appropriating it for his persona. His saloon-keeper father would be proud.
 
goalmouth,

as a journalist, you should learn this stuff, even if you can't raise your pimp hand. ;D
 
jgmacg said:
Let me be the dissenting voice here. I think Mr. Shapiro's scattergun approach in the column grievously weakens it.

- To whom is he raising the ubiquitous pimp hand? ESPN? The writers from other papers who appear on it? Donna Shalala? The NHL? Breweries? Society at large? All are mentioned, but no citation supports the indictment of one over another.

- Is the column about the brawl and its subsequent coverage? Or is it about Mr. Shapiro's obvious distaste for Paige and Bayless and 'Cold Pizza'? His gratuituous and global comments regarding same distract from his pursuit of his own theme.

- The Dartmouth/Holy Cross brawl is mentioned, but with only weak reason - that it wasn't on TV. A more damning rhetorical strategy would have been to ask whether or not the absence of coverage has anything to do with the racial and class make-up of the schools in question.

- The NHL comparison is untenable, except insofar as he limits his mention to the highlights ESPN might show. NHL players are professionals, and are thought to be adults. College players are subject to the supervision of the universities they attend. More important to his point - there is no fighting in college hockey.

- He admits repeatedly that the brawl was pretty bad, and that Pres. Shalala didn't do enough about it. How is that ESPN's fault?

- He asks how ESPN/Paige treated the UC scandal a few years ago. Just as they treated this one - the coverage was a mile wide and an inch deep.

- He asks Mr. Plaschke to provide him some SAT scores. But provides none of his own. 5 minutes work on the internet finds this for USC:

The incoming freshman class for the 2005 fall term had an average unadjusted GPA of 3.8 out of 4.0 and an average SAT score of 1368 out of 1600.

and this for Miami:

Freshmen

* Admission 18,807 applied, 8,679 admitted, 2,277 enrolled
* Test scores SAT verbal scores over 500 95%, SAT math scores over 500 97%, ACT scores over 18 100%, SAT verbal scores over 600 64%, SAT math scores over 600 74%, ACT scores over 24 86%, SAT verbal scores over 700 15%, SAT math scores over 700 22%, ACT scores over 30 32%

And here's a source for the two athletic programs' graduation rates, arguably a more important measure of a school's commitment to its students:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4g3NPUGSYGYxqb6kWhCjhgihqYeCDFfj_zcVH1v_QD9gtzQ0IhyR0UAA4M5xQ!!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfTFU!?CONTENT_URL=http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/gsr/2006/d1_school_gsr_data.html


I wouldn't call someone out for not doing work you yourself couldn't find five minutes for.

- ESPN's beer advertising lies at the root of this? If so, then the Washington Post is going to have to strip itself of any morally questionable advertising before Mr. Shapiro again ascends his soapbox.

- One arrives at the end of the piece wondering why one bothered. If everyone's to blame, then no one's to blame. A missed opportunity for Mr. Shapiro.

(nods head)
 
jgmacg said:
ondeadline said:
I never got an answer. What does "raises his pimp hand" mean?

Per Mr. Whitlock, we can take it to mean: to discipline, to bring into line, to smack upside the head.
you mean the guy who thinks he's the new sheriff in town?

if he's out to police all of us as he suggests he is, i'd like to be the first to call him a pig.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
It's also about beating up women.

Fenian, as always, makes the finer point.

(That there's cold cruelty in the gesture, and gratuitous abuse, is not, I suspect, what the XXL Sexy necessarily intends when flourishing the callous hand in question. Still...)
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I'm not bitter on any level... I had a bad run-in with Hill a zillion years ago and I can't stand her... That's my honest answer...

Just tell the truth, you were the guy she was writing about in the blog!!

(extremely kidding....it was just sitting there... :D )
 

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